As we know from the movies, film producers are always on a call when you arrive for a meeting with them. Sure enough, Morgan O'Sullivan is on the phone talking about casting his latest project, Camelot, a television costume drama based on Thomas Mallory's Le Morte d'Arthur, the late medieval rendering of the King Arthur legend, which starts shooting in Wicklow this June.
"Yes, you're right," he says into the receiver. "We have to start looking at Arthur and Guinevere as soon as possible. Yes, she's definitely on the list."
But because this is Ardmore Studios in Bray and not Megafilm Inc in Hollywood, O'Sullivan ends the call promptly and discreetly. In fact, apart from the somewhat incongruous treadmill, rowing machine and stationary bike parked beside the bay window in his office, nothing suggests that this is the foremost Irish outpost of Tinseltown. The exercise equipment does indicate the sort of hours O'Sullivan must keep in the intensive world of film and television production, though.
O'Sullivan's glittering record includes Braveheart and The Tudors – proof that, done right, centuries-old stories can be recreated for the screen. Yet he had to fight to get the green light for Camelot.
"It took me four months to even sell it," he says. "We're going into another period drama. Was the last one a fluke? I remember no studio would take Braveheart. It was primarily financed by Mel Gibson. Eventually 20th Century Fox came in, but they felt it was such a risk they parcelled it out to other studios."
O'Sullivan spent those four months selling Camelot in a hotel in Los Angeles, working his extensive contacts from nearly four decades in the film and TV business. The breakthrough came during a meeting with Chris Albrecht, the former head of HBO who bought The Sopranos, Band of Brothers, Sex and the City and Rome for the cable network. Now he's with upstart channel Starz and looking for original programming.
"The cable channels are really a great market for us," O'Sullivan says. "[Albrecht] started on a Tuesday and I saw him on a Friday. The first thing he said to me was, 'I'm not ordering any shows'. So I told him I wanted to do Camelot and he said, 'I love The Tudors, it's terrific. I love the Morte d'Arthur books', and he became more enthusiastic than I was."
O'Sullivan has already budgeted $47m (€34.7m) for just the first season of Camelot, putting the cost per episode at nearly $5m. That sounds expensive, but it's only half the price of the swords-and-sandals series Rome, which created the authentic look and feel of the ancient empire. Audiences – crucially American audiences – have now been conditioned to expect a lot.
"There is a fear about costume dramas in America," O'Sullivan says. "We're competing at a very high level. We've got to make it like a feature film. It's got to have that look, quality and texture. The depth and scale of the thing has to have real class."
That brings high stakes, which is why it took even an industry veteran with an enviable track record like O'Sullivan to get a green light on the project in the first place.
"A lot of these projects are pre-sold to the likes of Starz, HBO or Showtime, so they become the primary financier," O'Sullivan says. "Camelot is partnering with Graham King, who is a big film financier and producer in the UK who wants to be in television. Camelot is perfect for him to finance the foreign end. They literally put up the money in conjunction with Starz and then we come in with our tax money."
That Section 481 tax-incentive money is vital to getting these projects over the line, whether in television or film, O'Sullivan says. For most projects, the investors availing of Irish tax breaks account for as much as 28% of a production's funding. This comes from "ordinary punters", O'Sullivan says, as much as high-net investors looking for tax shelters.
And while the Irish banks are barely lending to most industries, they apparently have not lost their appetite for backing these investors to contribute to film projects. O'Sullivan gets fees out of this and takes a back-end, ownership position on each project.
"Once a show is sold it's relatively easy to get somebody to put in finance as an advance against foreign money," he says. "We do deficit finance with the tax-incentive money. You wouldn't have the industry here without that. We want to be in business with serious players who are well-financed and well-resourced. We've never had a bad experience and we've done 70 projects. It's about covering off risk, which means actually making money."
The return to the local economy is considerable, as well. The first season of shooting Camelot is estimated to be worth €20m to Bray and the surrounding areas. Between 300 and 400 people will cycle through the cast and crew once production starts. They have to eat and sleep – at the very least – for months while filming continues. This means catering, hotels and other service providers get the benefit.
And while Camelot may be the biggest production at Ardmore this year, it won't be the only one. In fact, O'Sullivan's dream is to build a self-sustainable film industry here in Ireland.
"My ambition is to have the semblance of an industry here," he says. "People in Hollywood have always told me, 'If you build it, we'll come'."
A new film studio in Ashford, 20km down the road from Ardmore, could be the next piece of that puzzle. Owner Joe O'Connell has built 75,000 sq ft of studio space, greatly expanding the capacity of Wicklow to stage simultaneous major productions.
"While we're doing Camelot, nothing else can really happen here," says O'Sullivan. "We take over the place."
Curriculum Vitae
Morgan O'Sullivan
Position: director, World 2000 Entertainment, film and TV producer
Age: 65
Family: wife Elizabeth and three daughters, Tara, Auveen, Ciara and four grandsons
Education: St Fintan's School, Sutton and Presentation College, Bray
Career: RTE, ABC Sydney, Walt Disney Company, Paramount, Fox, HBO, Showtime, NBC and CBS in Film and Television
Hobbies: Work, reading and golf
In the interview he made reference to the outdated Ardmore Studio's which cannot accommodate more than one major productions the same time "While we're doing Camelot, nothing else can really happen here, We take over the place " says O'Sullivan. The recent construction of 75,000 sq ft warehouse in Ashford, Co Wicklow by Joe O Connell is a start. But it will still need massive investment from one of the American studios, to turn it in to a proper sound stages with all proper auxiliary facilities facilities.The is another issue which Morgan did not speak about, in my opinion is the "Elephant in the Room". There are several binding agreements with craft Unions that have marred the industry through lack of reform. Most of these practices date back to when Ardmore Studios was first opened in 1958, and no longer meet today's rapidly changing industry. For many years tax incentives camouflaged our lack of competitiveness particularly in the construction of sets. Period film/TV production require large set pieces which are very labour intensive, and make up a substantial part of the overall budget. If the film industry is going to continue to grow and develop in Ireland reform of these work practices must be dealt with now. Currently a non skilled labour is a guaranteed €1,184.04 per week excluding overtime, meals, and travelling expenses - multiply that by a crew of 40 over a 10-12 week build and its a considerable amount. It can be a lucrative business for some but all crew are not treated the same, if your an assistant in the production office your wage is going to be more like €700 for the same hours and no expenses.There has been a complete failure by all Producers including Morgan to bring about change and a balance for all workers on film. Instead of tackling this issues, producers have instead reduced the wages of other departments or hired trainees to do the work or in some cases avoided building sets altogether. As a consequence the overall quality of what is is been produced has declined and many trained technicians have left the industry. With the threat of Industrial relations some American and British companies, have chosen to go to elsewhere in Europe. Every country across the world has its own version of a tax incentives, and most East European crews are operating at a fraction of our costs. A weak dollar and sterling in recent years which has compounded the problem. American producers love coming to Ireland and in general but we must up our game, if we want to to develop an industry.
Section 481 tax incentives only goes so far in encouraging film-makers to come to Ireland. A modern film studios is is essential for today's movie making, but if we don't bring about changes to work practices, it will make no difference what facilities or incentives we have. The announcement of Camelot coming to Ireland is welcome but its 'one production', and does not make a sustainable industry.