The parents of a 15-year-old stabbed to death in Tyrrelstown, west Dublin, have condemned his murder as a racially motivated killing as gardaí last night continued to question two brothers in relation to the fatal knife attack.
Toyosi Shitta Bey (15), from Mount Eustace in Tyrrellstown but originally from Nigeria, was fatally stabbed in the heart as he walked through his estate towards home with a group of friends at 8pm on Friday night.
"They killed my son because he was black. God has taken him from me but in my dreams I can see my son," his mother Segun Shitta Bey told the Sunday Tribune. "He never did anything to anyone. All he did was play football, that was his life. Is it a crime that he is black? My life is finished in Ireland. I regret ever coming here."
Toyosi was one of six children and has lived in Ireland since he was five years old with his siblings, his mother, and father Bola Shitta Bey. He was a talented footballer and played for Shelbourne football club under 15s.
Yesterday, at their home in Tyrellstown, his family expressed their anguish and deep sense of loss over the teenager's murder. "Does black mean nothing to some people? Why anyone would hurt my son? This time yesterday he was alive and now we can never be the same again," his mother said.
A senior garda source said they were still trying to establish a motive but they were aware of the allegations of racism. Specialist officers from the Garda Racial and Intercultural Office are assisting local detectives.
Toyosi had been to a local swimming pool in Blanchardstown with friends on Friday evening. Afterwards, he was walking home with his friends in the Mount Eustace estate in Tyrellstown. He was in the company of two other male teenagers originally from Nigeria, two teenage boys originally from the Congo and two Irish teenage girls.
Two Irish brothers, aged 23 and 38, were standing on the street outside their home in The Boulevard, Mount Eustace estate. They were living in Tyrellstown but were originally from Dublin's south inner city. One of the teenage girls asked one of the brothers for a cigarette.
Both men then began to abuse Toyosi and his friends about the colour of their skin and called them "niggers" several times, according to a local source. A brief altercation ensued before Toyosi and his friends walked away.
But the two brothers then went into their house and got a knife. Both men had been drinking, according to a garda source. They then got into their car and drove after the teenagers.
When the men approached the teenagers again, Toyosi, who was known as 'Toy', told his friends not to get involved in a confrontation and to keep walking. But the man armed with the knife stabbed the teenager through the heart.
"It was a racist attack. He was a lovely, happy-go-lucky boy," said Marian Salami, who lives in the same housing estate and knew the teenager well. There is a sizable African community in the middle-class housing estate.
"At first, I was worried it was my brother, he is a good friend of his. Football was his life and he was very popular. His friends are very angry. I have tried to calm them."
Korede Salami, a good friend of Toyosi's who was not present when he was stabbed, said everyone was still in shock. "He always had a smile on his face. He always stuck up for people. I think he was trying to help his friend when he was stabbed," he said.
RIP Toyosi.... As for Pádraic's comment, I fear for his ignorance. I wonder if he even read the article or if he just saw the word black and saw it as an excuse to embark on a racist tirade? Seriously, what has this poor boy's murder got to do with immigration policy?
It is also very interesting to note that #1 seems to be harboring the blame for the latest wave of emmigration on residents of Tyrrelstown. With this level of understanding and tolerance is it any wonder that Ireland is where it's at. People are leaving because there is no work and little money. During the boom years, the country went mad and basically squandered it! I am an Irish emmigrant and reading this news story from abroad is very saddening.
Any money that is in Ireland seems to be flung at the banks; it is a joke.
We still have a lot to address as a society to move on with the rest of the world.
Padraic repeats a common racist fallacy. How about if the thousands of Irish who have arrived on US shores return to Ireland because they displaced American workers.
Pairic, you are an idiot. A very stupid , ignorant little man, what tolerance you supposedly possess is immeasurable. Ireland's famous for its literature and men of the World.
It is a pity that it is also infamous for containing the likes, dislikes of you.
What a stupid 1st comment. disappointing to see someone can read that article & be mostly concerned about immigration
While like any right-thinking person I wholeheartedly condemn the taking of this boy's life and have great sympathy with his family, I cannot help but feel that a headlong rush to multiculturalism simply for it's own sake will eventually lead to the deaths of many, many more black teenagers, the overwhelming majority at the hands of other black teenagers.
This is NOT a problem of race. It is a problem of culture!
The experience of every other major european city can only reinforce this view!!
Padraic,ignorance is brought on by fear but you re so thick you cant even see your own contradiction!
I think we should be rather concerned with the cruel murder of someone's son, infammatory comments like shut the doors would only aggravate the situation on ground. this is a time to console and not to increase the hate
fully agree with padraic ,i worked building tyrellstown ,couple of years back and could only dream of living in one of them homes ,i would need two jobs just to pay rent and yet these immigrants can live worry free and drive 10D bmw ,merc 4x4 etc ,while i get the bus and live in a council estate ,unless theres is change this kind of thing will happen more and more .the goverment gives preferance to immigrants especially (blacks)in dublin ,they all drive so they dont have to get the bus ,get school places before irish kids ,and rent allowance for private housing ,we need change now im sick of feeling alienated in my own country ,this might sound racist but its not ,im just fed up of this country and our policys. if somethings not done soon we will see our own version of the kkk formed and who wants that??
pÁdraic - perhaps we could consider diverting some funding which is used to maintain our dead national language to better use and maybe we could prevent some of the "hundreds and thousands of Irish people" from emigrating?
I am ashamed that a person who clearly asserts their Irish identity in the way they spell their name, should sprout such close minded nationalism.
My thoughts and sympathies are with the family and friends of this boy and the culprits must face the full rigor of the law.
Typical response from these people, the irish people are sick of being taken for a ride by these parasites, they should not even be in the country get used to these things happening as the irish are sick of our country being taken over by unwelcome visitors,
Pádraic, a young boy is killed for the colour of his skin and you thought that the best response was to create a baseless link between where his family chose to live and Irish people going aboard looking for work. Mindless guff like this opinion make my blood boil.
If you want to know the quickest way to force families from foreign countries into ghettoes, you simply victimize them for being foreign, accuse them of "stealing your jobs" and carrying an impulse for criminality. That way, they only feel that they can trust each other and feel that the only alternative is to live together in their own support group. If you want to avoid ghettoes, then start treating them like people and make them confident enough to feel that they can live in Irish communities without the fear of being blamed for every Irish problem.
The fact is he should not of been in the country anyway and as long as the government looks after these parasites as they drive their fancy cars and live in their free big houses and the irish lose their jobs and homes it will happen again, Ireland for the irish
Well said padraic and irish 4 life the Irish people are sick and tired being taken by these people and its our own governmnets fault, we should look after our own first and not people who should not be even in the country stealing our money and draining our resources,Time for quicker deportations and to close the doors,
The sooner we accept the most of the blacks are here to stay the better for all of us, some of them even hold irish passports so paul smith, irish 4 life and padraic cannot chase these black irish out of the country they where born. Let us find ways of building this nation and enough of wasting energy of hate and anger. The blacks are far less that 1% of the population of ireland. colin said it all.
I am 2 disgusted 2 even respond 2 Paidraig, Irish 4 life & Smith. Ireland is in d situation dy r now cos of ignorant eejits like dse 1s. I am so sorry dt a young life has bn snuffed out in dse manner but d system & government need 2 arise & do something. 2 many lives r bn lost both Irish & none Irish due 2 a decay in d system. Its time 2 stand up & b counted. D prob in d country is not brought on by immigrants its as a result of years of misconduct / lack of financial foresight & openness. God help us all
What a horrible way to die. No justification whatsoever. Yet again the young and innocent suffer the consequences of what is one of the most cowardly and unchristian societies I have ever witnessed. The young victim could have been anybody's child.
Toyin - Learn to write before slagging others, what an utter disgrace to the english language, this incident will make Irish people awake to these people who just want to sponge of us and drain our resources, start mass deportations now we do not want these parasites anymore. ireland needs to look after our own not these unwelcome unwanted people
Disgusted but hardly surprised to read some of the comments following this poor lad's murder. Sure, didn't we take to racism like ducks to water?
Peddling the myths that newcomers get expensive cars and loads of dole is the work of commited racists, xenephobes and other ne'er do wells.
Try to educate yourselves a bit before going all stormfront/KKK on us.
http://www.amnesty.ie/amnesty/upload/...
Is Mise,
JM
yeah a person died ,yeah death is a bad thing , something must of happened they must of done something to bring on such a violebt answer ,theres two sides to every story and all you stuck up ppl that think there life will be easier for condeming killers cop on ,any one of us on this page would last about 10 mins in africa b4 we were raped shot and ate alive .we let these people in to our country fair enough but they should all be working not on social welfare ,blacks dont work here and if they do they collect there dole aswell,every1 one of them has more than me thanks to our goverment and snobs that already have it all and dont have to live beside these scum ,im sorry the lad died but it shouldnt be our problem now should it???
@ #1 Pádraic and ignorant people like yourself, stop thinking all foreigners in this country, came to Ireland.
I am a Software Engineer, and like so many people like me, I was invited to come here, and help build the Irish economy
Ireland then had jobs, that couldn't be filled by the Irish..Irish Immigraton then created ICT visa, so that these American company, wouldn't be force to leave.
I pay more that €20,000 in tax and deductions like income levies every year..I think we both know, who get this money, people like u.. so stop saying rubbish here..
This is the most display of ignorance and disregard for the sanctity of life by Paidraig Irish 4 life, Smith and a few others I have ever seen. Do you know how many millions of Irish folks that are living in other countries with total freedom to own and drive whatever they want and like? Do you know how many hard working immigrants, professionals etc, that are in this country and making huge positive contribution? Doctors, Nurses, Accountants, etc name them. If all you can see is some bunch of second class humans stealing away our country, it is simply because that is what you have chosen to see. That makes you such a big ignoramus living in a civilized age. I am sorry, but even a rehab won't change you, what you need is a transformation from within, that whole pile of hate needs to come out from our hearts, otherwise we are no different from those hijackers and suicide bombers of 9/11. People with such mind set should be monitored else they could repeat the same evil
Pádraic,
You are an "ASS". Your ignorant attitude "kills". .
Why don't you just open your mind and shut your mouth, both are empty anyway.
Paidraig, Irish 4 life, & Smith, a life has been violently taken away from a young man who looked forward to a very promising future, was it this young man that took away your job? Why should he die for the money or job you don't have? Did he decide the policies of Ireland? It is sad that you just can't get it. When you spill such harsh words when people are grieving, you only provoke more hate and encourage more evil. Every one of us can relate to grief, why don't you have any human sympathy? There are people who will read what you have written and would want to carry out revenge. Blacks are not stupid and please do not let what happened in France be repeated in Ireland because we won't be able to handle it. This nation needs God love and forgiveness. Remember that majority of Irish people do not even live in this country
I am wondering how the very few racists on this comment board,how their lives became so sad and stupid.You used to hear comments like these from big dopey English yobs against the Irish.What class of an Irishman comes out with this bile,is it the big dopey Irish peasant class?
I'll never understand how some Irish people apparantly made such a success of themselves in America.They seem to be the most immature race of people in every respect who now unashamedly brag to the rest of the world that they cant even have a good time without swilling down gallons of booze.At one time we all thought it was amusing but I can tell you honestly that the rest of the world is getting pretty sick and tired of you!
Uhm Padraic...
We already have Parisian-style Banlieus. They're called Jobstown, Clondalkin, Ballymun and Darndale. But you might not see that because they're mostly full of white Irish people.
And to Peter Quinn I would point out that we already have plenty of white teenagers killing each other in these places every other weekend, and yet you naturally don't see any racial element there. But you make a good point in spite of yourself: "This is NOT a problem of race. It is a problem of culture!" Yes, a culture of poverty in the Parisian ghettos, in the London ghettos and in the Dublin ghettos.
For all those trying to blame the incident on immigration rather than on moronic racists.
Cop yourselves on.
Typical response from the liberials and pinkos who have tried to destroy this country with their policy of mass immigration, the Irish people are sick of this being forced on them, we should look after our own first not other countries problems, as for Phil he is quite obviously vastly under educated with his moronic views, we are sick of people like you who know nothing about our country and we are sick of below average people like you spouting rubbish about subjects you know nothing about. Ask for Abi BIG DEAL you pay taxes that what everybody else pays so stop going on as if you’re so special because you not.
@Paul Smith.. you're an Ass, if u don't know, go and ask your Ex-Minster "Mary Harney", she sent Employment Agency all over the world, looking for people like me, so that we could help this country economy. where were u and people like u then.. I guess, collecting dole and smoking crack.. If u choose to get a better education like people like me, maybe, u could earn €75,000/year and work for company like SAP & Microsoft and live in better accomodation. So thinking people like me, took your job is just ignorances..cus let me assure, u can't do my job. and besides these are not Irish companies. Though, I have been given naturalisation, but because people like u, I have plan to move to better places in Europe..If u judge people by the color of theirskin, you're an ASS!!!
Or is it just the case of bitter resentment as expressed by Paul Smith Paddy-go-backwards!
You ruined your own country you ignorant Brat with your"looking after your own first".
(nothing to do with the Blacks that!)
I would say you are a product of the Celtic Tiger and will soon be learning about the experience of emmigration,I hope your country of choice will make you feel as welcome as the Cead Mile Failte you are inherent of.Its strange how Kilburn and Cricklewood in North London are acceptable ghettos while East Peckham is not as some other deluded muppet of a pixie alluded to!
"any one of us on this page would last about 10 mins in africa b4 we were raped shot and ate alive .we let these people in to our country fair enough but they should all be working not on social welfare ,blacks dont work here and if they do they collect there dole aswell,every1"
Obviously you've never been out of your own backyard - what do you know of Africa? Clearly nothing, judging by your ill informed Victorian Punch Magazine comments. Black people DO work in Ireland and most stick to the law of the land - they don't collect dole if they have a job. Do you have any black friends, partners, family? I seriously doubt it.
This tragic murder has been hijacked by a handful of racist sub-humans & they should be ashamed of themselves.
It's time people stood up to a minority of ignorant, fearful people who seek to cause tension and hate. Perhaps it's the racists who need deporting - Ireland would be better off without them.
"and snobs that already have it all and dont have to live beside these scum ,im sorry the lad died but it shouldnt be our problem now should it???"
The responsibility lies with all of us, a chara; especially when we have to deal with the likes of some of the above.
I am proud to be Irish but ashamed when I come across such small minded views as we find here. I hope other people across the world will take note & see that not all Irish are like the handful of racists here.
Whether we llike it or not,Tyrellstown is
a suburban ghetto,tensions will always be raised when people from different socio economic backgrounds are forced by bad
gov't to co exist in such isolation,
Some bought into a false dream and paid
ridiculous prices for houses in an area that
was then populated by others in "social
housing" creating bitterness.
irish bastards,, i think an example has to be made of these people, they have no right to take life,,not for any reason in the world,and for those criticizing the habouring of blacks in ireland,i feel that is utter foolishness.these people have done nothing to us,but you find it much comforting to blame them for your numerous problems..if you cant live in peaceful co-existance with your fellow human being,,then you have a shallow mind.have you ever watched an irish baby and a black baby playing together,they do it with so much love..i think these fools need to learn from them
Everyone knows that this situation has been coming for a long time, more poverty and competition for meagre resources are likely to result in repeats of these despicable acts , why can't we learn from other countries mistakes. everyone knew it would happen
The death of this teenager is a loss not just to the family but to the entire world that we live in.Ignorance is still a terrible disease's affecting the mind of some people that can descend so low to terminate a life who in years to come can be a solution provider to the need of the same nation in a racially motivated way,Well putting all sentiments aside,i think the need for more public awareness still need to be created in ireland for people to be tolerant of themselves and live in harmony irrespective of whether you are red,green,brown,black or white in Colour.Without this being in place,dynamic development and meaningful growth cannot takes place.its a problem of the mind which the government should address ,if they need help, i will offer suggestion that will be needed at no extra cost.
Hmmm, So much hate...How soon people forget....How ignorant are people.....History lessons????. The irish migrated to every other country in the world -a lot of them to Africa, did they all die under 10 mins.....What outrage in the past when the English had signs with No dogs and No Irish.... oh and intolerance stems from Ignorance. These people do not choose the companies that are leaving the country.... did they?? I bet you all have cousins in America/ Australia..etc. Mass Deportations of all these poeple back to Ireland??? This should be all about bringing the perpetrators to justice not all this rubbish you are saying.As an Irish citizen who emmigrated and was treated well abroad, I just feel sad knowing people like Padraic and Paul Smith are Irish like me.
Iam suprise to hear this from Padraick and Irish for life.You are really heartless and you need to travel and explore things.Iam not a black person too and many of you are in my country today as i speak,you are the most cruel and wicked people.This could be your brother in another country.Fine he is gone and resting,where is your tomorrow,you are the one depending on social welfare in your own country because you did not go to school. LACK OF EDUCATION IS A PROBLEM.Do to others what you wish them to do to you
Its unfortunate to actually have to read it in black & white, how real racism is. Its absolute ignorance. Padraig & the likes.. I'm sure u hv relatives who live outside Ireland..& I can only hope they meet scumbags like u that think a country is only meant for the citizens of that country. If u spent time educating urselves, u'll knw emmigration is part of economics..(u might need to google that to understand what it means). Only racist, heartless animals like u can commit such crime. There're many Irish citizens, making millions all over Africa. To think that all foreign nationales in d country are on social welfare, is an unfortunate display of ignorance. These pple take care of ur sick..that u are too stupid to care for. they contribute positively to ur community & economy..its ur choice to be blind with ur eyes wide open.Ur criminal record has crippled u, yet u blame these pple for driving good cars and living in gd homes..shame on u, u grew up in this country n refused to develop urself to afford wot they can. They work for their money & deserve to enjoy it. May God hv mercy on ur soul. for the humans amongst us, pls click the link below...its very sad.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2001/0518/stab....
Irish tom, padraic and other stupid racist posters, how about we swop 2 foreigners , for two irish in America or australia or Uk or new zealand or Canada or South africa or ur descendants in Argentina... oops can u see how stupid u are sounding every passing minute. Have a clue..fact
(there are more Irish people living outside of Ireland than there are living within ireland. Go and get good eductaion before u return to this post to make a comment... pipsqueak liquidised airhead brains like urs
phil we will ensure our country does not become a dirty dump like yours you sad brit freak, a brit on here telling us what do do, we kicked you lot out a long time ago you limey wierdo your a typical product of the rubbish english education system, ask for Abi good riddance you were probably sacked anyway, not wanted or needed
Padraic not sounding like someone well travelled. never saw the inside of a secondary school , likely. be great if individuals like him emigrated; but what country would have him?
Amazing how the Irish on here have to defend Ireland, this is our county look at that stupid brit twat Phil from one of the biggest kips of a country engerland famed for BSE, drunken scumbags, and horrible dirty cities, he has obviously had too much engerland beef as he has mad cow disease, then supernovs the foreign bastard, get a life and you bore. The time has come for Ireland to look after our own not other countries problems, ask for miriam the Irish peoples problem is that these people DO NOT deserve what they have it is handed to them unlike the Irish who have to work for everything we are sick of these parasites
I am deeply saddened and shocked by some of the xenophobic comments here. I find it hard to believe that Ireland, which has exported so many millions of people throughout the world, contains some people who harbour such venomous hatred against others who look different. Now I am beginning to understand why so many intelligent Irish people decide to leave their homeland, to live in more tolerant lands.
Pat W..still displaying much stressed ''ignorance''. To refer to pple as parasites only shows u're one.Who r u to determine wot pple deserve & dont?? Its unfortunate, cos if anyone of u ignorant ones had a tiny little bit of common human sense, u wldnt express urself d way u do. Ur lack of exposure & common knowledge is giving u away..quick to blame. dia r foreigners living in ALL countries of d world..NOTHING wld change that. d very few succesful irish pple got their break thru living abroad. I understand, wia some pple hia r feeble-minded, unfortunately, some of d pple that were chosen to educate u & bring u up in d way of d Lord were too busy molesting u & got ur brains twisted. Dont blame ur problems on pple who hv actually come to help u..I'm glad to hia sebastian to say d ''intelligent irish left''. racism is real, its obviously displayed hia. if u click on d link i posted earlier... Next time u choose to spell ur name with such patriotism Padraic..make sure sth worthy comes out of ur deranged mind. Balck, white, green, yellow or wotever.at least u call pple black bcos yeah..thats truly their skin colour..why r u white?? A life has been lost for no reason & yet u spend ur time blaming immigration laws..''so much for equal opportunity''..think abt wia Ireland wld hv been, if not for d EU membership...yet d taoiseach, past & present hv not stopped sucking-up to American presidents pleading for irish imigrants in America. Get educated!
Well done Paul Smith.I was following these posts in search of even the smallest element of logic,but now you have convinced me beyond any doubt of your severly and dangerously under-developed intellect.By mentioning regions of London you simply presume me to be English-or in your words a limey weirdo-which is by far more preferable these days than to hail from the small minority of tiny-minded bog-trotting groups of individuals that you"hang out with"!Whats really wrong Paul??Are you imprisoned in your little kip of an over-valued and seriously depreciating negitive equity mortgaged home in the arsehole of nowhere with no hope of ever achieving the"dream"yourself and your over-weight but impressivly fake-tanned girlfriend were promised of by your self-interested corrupt to the core FF gov(which you were ever so keen to vote in)until life came crushing in full force and left you..well,lets say..just a tad dejected.Now,knowing what I now know,you have neither the intelligence nor are articulate enough to express your frustration and anger at perhaps the appropriate causes of your dejection,namely the Bankers,Prop Developers,Seanie Fitz,Seanie Quinn bla bla.No,what do you do??In your miniscule understanding of"Blame Game"you lease all of your hate-fuelled rage on the Blacks.
As much as I would love to provoke by claiming to be an English Property developer who played all you fools and left me loaded,Im afraid it would be an illusion.Truth is,I fought for your country and was forced to emigrate long before weasels like you were ever born.How does that make you feel?..I can be assured not as silly as how it makes me feel!
You irish people get on my bloody nerves.. your all so racist that its just shamefull..
My friend Toyosi has been murdered bcos he is black.. If you wanted to live in a estate like his parents then you should have went to school you stupid idiot..
Being racist hasnt gotten your country anywhere Look the ressestion aint even over yet bcos I think That Alimighty God Is trying to punish your country, Good for all of you irish people that have lost your jobs you deserve it.
R.I.P Toy may the almighty Father protect your family.
Pat W. you are a cretin. Are you another member of our underclass, on the scratcher yet full of a misplaced sense of "entitlement"? If anyone should be deported from Ireland it's you and your likes. You are an embarrassment to the rest of us. It's a pity Van Diemens land is closed for business these days.
i dont hate irish people but i just hate the way they are sooo racist.. You dont know what its like to be a victim of racism, i wish we could all get along as one just as God said.. Imagine your life taken away from you just because you are black or white..
R.I.P Toy, May the almighty father protect your family, Amen
Oh My F***** God i am so ashamed to be irish right now like this cannot be serious..please tell me you guys are playing..
Im writing this from brooklyn i just saw this on google and i am seriously astonished by the level of ignorance and racism displayed by my fellow "irish people" a child has died and these are the comments you leave?
i hope you all just die at least that way i can be less ashamed to be irish right now.. may the little boy rest in peace and may god punish those ignorant bastards who drop out of school didnt get a job and are now trying to blame black people for all the problems they caused for themselves..
Padraic, Irish 4 Life and Paul Smith and co., you all are so deep-seated in your ethno-racist bigotry and medieval mindedness that you have lost touch with the realities of the times and the character of Irish history as a chief exporter of migrants. A young boy's life has been cut short and you are beating your chests in a salutary gesture to Irish heroism and defense of Irish monolithism against the much touted immigrant onslaught. What a pity? Take a critical look at Irish history and deny that this country has exported over 50 million of its natives to other shores. It's such a pity that individuals and groups like you will always regale in such populist myths that represent immigrants as "spongers", "parasites", "tresspassers", and so. Grow up, lads; the world has changed so fast, and you're eons of years behind!!!
here padraig i completely agree with yees i droped out of school after third year, along with 2 of me mates never went to college i cant get a job now me and me girlfriend and 5 almost all me mates are living on dole right now i drive a 91 honda civic and i spend all me money on coke..
and all this black fellas are driving savage cars and live in normal houses with theire familys happily while i fecking roth here what the feck do they think they are basterds do they think they are feckin farinas like abi comin to talk rubish i think yes should all go so i can get the money i deserve ...
..and with much more significance for the more balanced in our society,a family is grieving the loss of their son and for that all left with any human dignity we deeply regret.
YOU ALL ARE F**KING CRAZY.!!!
A LIL BOI DIED FOR NOTIN AND U ALL HERE CHATTING SH*T.!
irish 4 life & ilk; you're the ones who make me think of the word "Thick". But then you can't see beyond the colour of one's skin, to see there's an equal to you, human being within. You & your ilk; are what makes this state...a very disconcerting unhappy place. & Pat W...you're a past tense sad Irish discomfiture.
To this boys family, I send my condolences & apologise for the minority of immoral degraded racists still bigoted in 2010 Ireland.
Black or white, rich or poor, working or on the dole, we all have something in common - red blood flowing through our veins. I am a black and proud of my identity. A needless act has been committed. Yet all the likes of phil, padraic and paul smith can talk about is immigration. Imagine yourselves in this situation - being a target of hate because of your colour. A family is missing a son, a community is missing an ambassador and the society is missing part of its future. The problem goes deeper than what a forum can handle but as there is freedom of speech, everybody is entitled to their opinion even if totally whacked. I really wish ignorant fools like the above can live a day in the lives of these people and maybe they can be educated. But first, they should pay a visit to the hospitals and count the number of coloured carers there taking care of the sick. There are bad elements in every community. It is just bad that we have to witness the extreme on Friday. My thoughts are with the family of Toy and may he rest in peace. At least he is in a better place while Padraic et al have to maintain the dole queues.
My advice is to stay where you are Shauna.It's only when you manage to escape that you realise what an awful little hole Ireland truly is..sad thing is they are certainly not playing..this stuff is for real!The Racists think I am English because I happen to mention areas of North London where a million or so of their Nationals reside.Thanks Guys,it's much to embarrassing to be associated with anything Irish these days.So let them go Shauna,let them drown in misery and their own stinking cesspool of S*** that they created for themselves and let it forever be a symbol of total and utter failure.
I am an Irish immigrant in Britain & am gobsmacked by the hatreds being posted here. How insular we are - the loathing we have for our fellow man; black, British etc - it seems we will nurse the hatred to our very graves. If I was a religious person; I'd pray that none of Toyosi's family are reading the excrement posted here from those claiming to be Irish. They are nothing of the sort & are not representative of Ireland.
RIP, Toyosi. We are all brothers and sisters.
TOYOSI POOR BABY REST IN PEACE... disgusting racist comments, but 99 % of Irish people in Tyrrelstown and everyone else are sad and shocked at what happened. Hope family know our community supports them at this horrible time, please ignore sick comments from braindead people
The irish are racist people. They disgust me. If black man asks for the social welfare we are made feel like scammers. Ireland accepted us so we are entitled to social welfare and housing.
Colin, that fella padraig is right. Why don't you F*** off to the congo and ask them for a house, free money, food, clothes, a taxi license and while you're at it ask if your kids can hold the other kids back in school while they struggle to speak the language. You're some muppet calling him ignorant.
Murder is WRONG . I'm not saying otherwise. Whoever did it should be locked up just the same as if it was your or my kid that was killed. But Padraig is entitled to his view, as am I. Kevin Myers is right. The only thing Africa gave the world is Aids.
The so called 1st world has been throwing food and money at africa since the early 1900's. Enough is enough. They are more interested in guns than seeds. In rape than education. This Black card is played too often. Natural evolution spent millions of years seperating races. Europeans had an industrial revolutiuon while africans were still sacrificing each other and running around in the nip with sharp sticks. So why the rush to average out the gene pool again. why shake the bottle up when the cream has taken so long to rise to the top.
A more important topic is the amount of Paedo priests walking around scot free. The irish media should be focusing on bringing them to justice. That's JAIL not the church going public paying off compensation for the curch.
I'm sure I'll get loads of abusive replies. But at least I'm honest.
this is realy messedup,i am black and trust me wen i say,no black person wants to live in a country where your constantly being mistreated and bullied,.most of us are here coz we are looking for a better life,better education,.i have been here for ten years and i can say without shame,IRISH PEOPLE ARE RACIST,dnt hate blacks cause they work harder than you,or cause they have your jobs,they work hard to be ther,while yur sitingdown drinking or having a laugh,we are in nursing homes cleaning your granny's poo so we could pay our school fees,.,i hate irish people,if it wasnt for my seeking of better life,i wouldnt even be in this country.a young boy has been murdered,look at it as a father,mother,brother or sister,dont say he derves it couse hes a migrant.my sympathy is with toyosi's family,i hope justice is served.
ok good stuff! irish for life,Pádraic and jm! i like it man well done yea ur very smart i tinkur guys are makeing scence yes we should all start killing each other black and whites\yea start world war 4 good man!
To all the racist people who have commented on this - you are appauling and ignorant people. I am 17 years old and i can honestly say without being "big headed" or overly confident I am more educated than you for the simple reason that you would actually discriminate some one for the colour of their skin. I knew Toy he was an angel - so sweet so lovley to be around, full of life and joy. he has been brutally murdered and taken away from those who love him and for what? Spend 5minutes with a Nigerian family and you would see how welcoming and beautiful their culture is. Can you imagine what his mother is going through? All of those racist who are reading this you are as bad as those who killed Toy for promoting this ignorant racism. It makes me sick to my stomach to know that there are people like this among us in this day and age.
PEOPLE!!! Let us pray for Toyosi's family for God to give them the fortitude to bear this loss. Don't be sidetracked by irrelevances. It is said that you do not exchange words with a mentally demented person as it becomes difficult to differentiate one from the other. Why dignify such with responses. Choose what and who you debate with. Don't let grieve and anger reduce you to their level. The Irish are wonderful people and it is only natural to have a few bent people. So take time and pray for unity and and a non-repeat of such an incident. Stop stating the obvious and think about the well informed locals.
There are racists and murderers in every nation and every country. People die on a daily basis regardless of age, race or gender. The means by which somebody dies influences how family, friends & even the nation react to the loss. people die by accidents either by their own faults or somebody else's carelessness, people die as result of an act of God such as earthquakes & d likes...none of these circumstances will change..but to hv somebody killed...just bcos of their skin colour is painfully unbearable. Lets not use this medium to discuss immigrants..there are & will always be immigrants regardless of wot we do or say..d least anybody can do right now is to ensure justice is done & feeble minded things like Padriag should get psychological evaluation and hv their orientation revamped. As for the ones that are stuck-up thinking all Africans & other immigrants are here for d dole..u need to get informed. They, like most irish immigrants living abroad work to earn their living. Some of the ones here have built their own houses, while children of the soil are too busy wasting ur lives on booze & cigarattes, they're investing back into ur economy.
Arise, pple.. acts like this shld not be allowed to ruin any nation
Obviously any killing is horrific and unjustified. However although I am happy to see other Africans in Ireland; my personal experience of Nigerians is that they tend to be be loud aggressive and not willing to keep to the rules. See how Nigerian taxi drivers behave in the city center any night of the week as evidence of this. There are too many Nigerians in the country in integrate in an harmonious manner.
cant believe dey took my friend away from me like this,...They left his family nd us his friends 2 SUFFER...wHY CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME...tOYOSI NEVER DID ANYTHING 2 ANY WHITE PERSON HE LOVED WHITE PEOPLE,DATED WHITE GIRLS,HAD FRIENDS WHO WERE WHITE BUT WHAT DO DEY DO DEY KILL HIM!!FOR WHAT???BECUZ HE WAS BLACK,IS IT A CRIME 2 BE BLACK,WHY IS IT THT WHITE WOMEN ALWAYS WEAR FAKE TAN!!WHY????WELL GUESS WHAT BE CUZ DEY DONT LIKE D COLOUR OF DER SKIN SO INSTEAD DEY WANNA B BLACK....WHY DO DEY LISTEN 2 BLACK PEOPLE MUSIC TELL ME,WHY DO DEY GO BLACK PEOPLE PARTY!!!CUM ON TELL ME....WHY DO DEY LIKE DATIN BLACKS.....CUM ON TELLLLLLLL ME UR ANSWER...I REALLY DONT KNOW WHAT UR MAN "JOSEPH O CEALLAIGH" TALKIN ABOUT WHY IS IT THAT EVERY BLACK PERSON U SE,YALL THINK DAT THEY NIGERIAN,WE RE NOT AGGRESSIVE MAN PLEASE GET THAT INTO UR BRAIN YEAH,WHY IS THAT UR WHITE WOMEN/MEN GET MARRIED 2 BLACKS DO WE COMPLAIN DAT THEY TAKIN OUR MAN WELL NO!!!BUT YALL COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERY SINGEL THING WE DO...AFRICA IS WAY BETTER THEN DIS COUNTRY I TELL YHOO..I'M 16 YEARS OLD ND I HAVE BEEN LIVIN IN IRELAND FOR THE PAST 11 YEARS ND I HAVE NEVER HATED 1 WHITE PERSON...WHAT RE IRISH PEOPLE LOOKIN FOR IN AFRICA MOSTLY IN NIGERIAN CAN U TELL ME!!!!RASCIM IS EVERYWHERE IN DIS IRELAND MAN EVEN IN THE SCHOOLS CAN U BELIEVE THAT GOD HELP US PLEASE......IRELAND NEEDS DELIVERENCE..
Joseph,ur point exactly being.....???? The fact that you see many Africans driving taxis does not mean they are all Nigerians. Africa is a CONTINENT,not a country or state like most ignorant ones think. So,there are many Nigerian Taxi drivers mean they should be killed??? I can assure you,there are more Nigerian Doctors, Nurses, Social Care workers, Engineers & Accountants working in Ireland than any number of taxi drivers you think you see. There are more Irish pple on d streets of New York & Australia than any more Nigerian taxi drivers in the City Centre. It only proofs that, yes..they work to earn a living. There can NEVER be any justification for taking anybody's life.
Ah PHIL JAKER see how great Paddy O Racest has crawled out of their soggy boggies to attack and condem all beautiful black children to death because of the color of their skin. Black is beautiful is what many of my black friends tell me over here in beautiful Chicago and I AGREE WITH THEM. I would like to agree with ABI regarding Mary liar Harney as she told a lot of us ex pats to return also. Many went back only to be stabbed in the back by the likes of that ould hide behind his mammy paddy gary. I HOPE the good fine black Irish people will give the poor old WHITE TRASH paddy a job some day. Can you see it Phil, the future? gARY cleaning his wonderful BLACK MASTERS shoes, BMW,the masters house, he can even clean up after his masters dog ha ha haaaaa. The thicko stay at homo paddo always blame someone else for the mess they got themselfs into. Now all ye whitetrash backyard paddies be nice to yere new soon to be BLACK MASTERS and be thankfull that at least yere wives and daughters at long last have beautiful sleek black bodies to admire and fantesize about. The real reason paddy hates Black people is sexual, fear of the Irish female seeking real love ,real passion, having beautiful childern with BMW and MERC owning black men on 75000 euro a year. Well in my book Black people are beautiful and after reading most of the above Iam glad I ran out of that hole when Idid. JAKER get out of there while you can man. Now that PRESIDENT here in America is just another real nice black man that stole a white mans job,,, only in AMERICA baby,,,,,, I love this Country man where a black kid from the getto and an Irish Catholic from the green lawns of BOSTON a guy called Clinton from a broken home in the South and even a dumb oilman from TEXAS can become the most powerful man in the World. Go Obama go baby, Obama rocks, black power , black is beautiful. CHICAGO rocks Dublin stinks, what color are yere necks there ye thick jackeens, some soap and water on yere necks will reveal that yere necks are redder than anyones. Well the rain has stopped here on the lakeshore in Chicago and that beautiful smell of freedom, oh I cant decribe it, its soooo goooood Turn off the ould light there paddy last, I hope you polished your Black masters new BMW BECAUSE you see his new white irish real happy wife needs it in the morning. Man why is dat Irish girl always so happy looking before going to bed at night and content looking in the morning. Yes I guess its true, the BLACK MALE is Gods gift to Irish women ENJOY
We are all brothers & sisters....shun racism..
please ignore any sick comments from brain dead people.........
Come down here to Nigeria and see how immigrant`s are been treated....I`m black,I`m prouD.
STOP & SHUN RACISM
I want you all to believe that both White and Coloured are all created byone God.... We are all the same ,its just the colour. Can pple stop saying bad things about black pple, the matter here is that an Innocent life has been snatched away without commiting any sin but just bcus he was a Black boy. His families are in terrible pain that could take a very long time to recover,why not consider that than you running your mouth with stupid talkS. I am a black lady and am proud to be black, living here for over 11years, have a very good Education and made me get a good job and never rely on No Govt to keep me going, so pls stop saying bad things abt black pple. I just bad comments from alot of pple but i dnt care abt thier racial comment bcus i knw, I AM FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY MADE BY GOD....(TO all African pple(Black),pls ignore them all even in the school,work,on d bus or any where you get any racial act,they are all unEducated,No life and Sicking pple...ple always walk away,dnt prove to them,we know u not wateva they call you but ple]s,just walk away bcus all they are out to do it to Shorten the livees of Black pple and it ill nt be possible IJN Amen) We are all had working,we dnt sit on our butt like some do...Irish pple are welcome in other countries even in Nigeria ,so PLS LEAVE US ALONE,ND LET US BE.....Pls stop snatchin d lives of our pple,der destiny and family..... LETS ALL LIVE IN HARMONY ND WE ILL ALL BE A GR8 PPL
Some facts for people who may not be able to distinguish the obvious for themselves. I have provided references for some in case people doubt me. Please inform me if you find any of the following to be incorrect or open to debate.
Africa is a continent which contains many countries, one of which is Nigeria. [Any map]
Not all Black people living in Ireland are from Nigeria.
Less than 1% (~40K, ~20K of whom live in the Dublin area) of Irish residents are black [2006 Census Ireland], making the number of Nigerians residing in Ireland (assuming they make up 75% of the Black community which is a hyperbole for this discussion) approximately 30,000.
Some, not all, Black people claim benefits.
Some, not all, Irish people are racist.
People on the internet with extreme opinions are more likely to voice them than those with moderate opinions. [Shin, J. (2008). Morality and Internet Behavior] [Communities in cyberspace - Marc A. Smith, Peter Kollock]
Now that I have dealt with facts, let me express my opinion.
Any time a person dies as a result of a violent act, we as humanity lose a little part of ourselves. Any time we engage in hate filled rhetoric we propogate this violence back into society.
If you have a problem, chances are it is a problem of your own creation. A Black person did not come along and create your problems for you. Perhaps if you want someone to blame for your plight, take a look in the mirror... but then all you do is project that violent feeling towards yourself.
Don't feed the trolls. Love your neighbour and yourself.
@ #61
Joseph?
Someone is dead...just shut the f**k up you inconsiderate prick!
What if some Brazilian guy killed you because you were drunk (let me outline that this is a TYPICAL characteristic of an Irish man) ?
Just Shut up and have some damn Respect!
R.I.P Toy xx
I AM UTTERLY SHOCKED AND DISGUSTED AT WHAT I AM SEEING HERE...THIS IS NEWS ABOUT A YOUNG BOY WHO WAS KILLED AND ALL YOU HAV TO SAY IS COMPLAIN ABOUT THE ECONMY?..TELL ME HOW WUD U RESPOND IF IT WAS AN IRISH BOY THAT WAS KILLED??? IT DOES NOT MATTER IF HE WAS NIGERIAN OR NOT THIS BOY WAS BRUTALLY MURDERD IN COLD BLOOD AND THIS IS ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY??....WHY ARE THERE SO MANY AMERICAN IRISH TO THE POINT DAT ST PATRICKS DAY IS CELEBRATED ALL OVER AMERICA..UR FORE FATHERS HAD A FAMINE AND RAN OFF TO AMERICA FOR HELP AND THEY HELPED YOU NOW ITS UR TURN TO HELP AND ALL U CAN TALK IS RUBBISH??..WHY ARE THE BLACKS TAKING YOUR JOBS?? ASK YOURSELF THAT QUESTION BCUS IF YOU APPLIED FOR THAT JOB AND UR CREDENTIALS WERE GREAT WHY DIDNT YOU GET IT??? LET ME TELL YOU ONE THING U FAIL TO SEE..IF EVRY BLACK PERSON WAS TO LEAVE THEIR JOBS RIGHT NOW AND GO BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY DIS MINUTE THE IRISH ECONOMY WILL COME CRASHING DOWN..YOU ARE TOO GOOD TO CLEAN THE FLOORS BUT WE DO IT...YOU R TOO GOOD TO BE NURSES AND LOOK AFTER SICK PEOPLE BUT WE DO IT YOU R TOO GOOD TO DRIVE TAXIS YET WE DO IT??...YOU CANT BE BOTHERD TO STAY IN SCHOOL YET U COMPLAIN WEN WE STAY, WORK HARD, AND GET OUR DEGREES, AND DRIVE BETTER CARS DAN YOU? DO U HAVE ANY REASONING AT ALL?? U CANNOT SAY U APPLIED FOR A JOB AND U HAD ALL THE CREDENTIALS YET THE BLACK PERSON GOT THE JOB NOOOOO THE BLACK PERSON HAD BETTER CREDENTIALS..WHY DID THE BLACK PERSON HAVE BETTER CREDENTIALS?? BECUS HE WORKED FOR IT!! WE ARE PARASITES??? YET WE BOOST UR ECONOMY? ALL I CAN SAY IS IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE.. PART OF THE HELP U GET FROM TEH E.U IS BCUS U ALLOW IMMIGRANTS IN...I AM UTTERLY DISGUSTED WE ARE TALKN ABOUT A LIFE LOST AND ALL YOU CAN DO IS BE SELFISH AND THINK OF JOBS?? IM GLAD NOT EVERYONE OF YOU AGREE WITH DESE IGNORANT OPINIONS BUT IM ALO GLAD I CAN SEE CLEARLY WHERE I STAND AS A BLACK PERSON AND MORE IMPORTANTLY AS A NIGERIAN..... HA U WANT US TO LEAVE UR COUNTRY?? YET U BROUGHT US HERE YOURSELF WHEN U TOOK US AS SLAVES DECADES AGO??? HA GOOD LUCK WITH DAT COS WE AINT GOING NO WHERE I HOPE DAT INFURIATES YOU!!!!! WHAT R U GNA DO?? DAT HASNT ALREADY BEEN DONE BEFORE??
YOU ABSOLUTELY DISGUST ME
we are all human beings we all hve de same features but the only difference between us is just the color.. why should racism exist and kill some1 just because of the the color. R.I.P Toyosi !!
GROW UP U RACIST. WE ARE D ONE WHO TAKE GOOD CARE OF UR OLD AND SICK PEOPLE, THAT U CANT EVEN LOOK AFTER JUST BECAUSE U ARE SICK UPSTAIRS..... LOTS OF IRISH IN AFRICA MAKING MONEYS. WE ARE HERE TO WORK AND NOT FOR SOCIAL WELFARE MONEY. GROW UP..... IF U WANT TO DRIVE BMW 2010 THEN WORK FOR IT, DNT BE JEALOUS....................
HA U WANT US TO LEAVE UR COUNTRY?? YET U BROUGHT US HERE YOURSELF WHEN U TOOK US AS SLAVES DECADES AGO???
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SOMEONE NEEDS A HISTORY LESSON
@ Christ u stupid thick. All africa gave the world is aids? get ur stupid arse back to school and this time pay attention to HISTORY lessons. seriously some of u guys are so ignorant why not think for a second if the situation was changed that could have been ur own son or brother or friend even. And yeah lets deport all the foreigners back and bring the rest of ur fellow irish back o ireland let me see where the whole of uze fit. oh and the foreigners or should i say 'BLACKS' are doing the jobs u guys wont do they work for their money.
TOY rest in peace
nicely said karimah i couldnt have put it properly myself
hmm...not gonna say much...jus that at the end of the day were all people...we shud all look out 4 eachother
n stereotypin is wrong no matter wat u think...don waste your breath tryna convince dem that there asses...only God can help dem
Life without black people,
A very humorous and revealing story is told about a group of white people who were fed up with African Americans, so they joined together and wished themselves away . They passed through a deep dark tunnel and emerged in sort of a twilight zone where there is an America without black people .
At first these white people breathed a sigh of relief .
At last, they said, No more crime, drugs, violence and welfare .
All of the blacks have gone! Then suddenly, reality set in
. The 'NEW AMERICA ' is not America at all-only a barren land .
1 . There are very few crops that have flourished because the nation was built on a slave-supported system .
2 . There are no cities with tall skyscrapers because
Alexander Mils, a blackman, invented the elevator, and without it, one finds great difficulty reaching higher floors .
3 . There are few if any cars because Richard Spikes, a black man, invented the automatic gearshift, Joseph Gambol, also black, invented the Super Charge System for Internal Combustion Engines, and Garrett A .Morgan, a black man, invented the traffic signals .
4 . Furthermore, one could not use the rapid transit system because its procurer was the electric trolley, which was invented by another black man, Albert R .Robinson .
5 . Even if there were streets on which cars and a rapid transit system could operate, they were cluttered with paper because an African American, Charles Brooks, invented the street sweeper .
6 . There were few if any newspapers, magazines and books because John Love
invented the pencil sharpener, William Purveys invented the fountain pen, and Lee Barrage invented the Type Writing Machine and W . A .Love invented the Advanced Printing Press . They were all, you guessed it, Black .
7 . Even if Americans could write their letters, articles and books, they would not have been transported by mail because William Barry invented the Postmarking and Canceling Machine, William Purveys invented the Hand Stamp and Philip Downing invented the Letter Drop .
8 . The lawns were brown and wilted because Joseph Smith invented the Lawn Sprinkler and John Burr the Lawn Mower .
9 . When they entered their homes, they found them to be poorly ventilated and poorly heated . You see, Frederick Jones invented the Air Conditioner
and Alice Parker the Heating Furnace .. Their homes were also dim . But of course, Lewis Lattimer later invented the Electric Lamp, Michael Harvey invented the lantern,and Granville T . Woods invented the Automatic Cut off Switch . Their homes were also filthy because Thomas W . Steward invented the Mop and Lloyd P . Ray the Dust Pan .
10 . Finally, they were resigned to at least have dinner amidst all of this turmoil . But here again, the food had spoiled because another Black Man, John Standard invented the refrigerator.
to Pádraic,Irish 4 life, & Smith u guys re just the most stupid and senseless human beings have eva seen in my life. a family just lost a precious gift to them and all u could do is start some kind of racist comment, u guys re just waste of space on dis planet i wish i can smack the day light out of u guys rite now idiotic waste of space hissssss. i dnt know y we have to kill our selves bcos of color we re all created the same. imagine these idiots talking about black ppl driving bmw, well may be they did work hard for thier money so u guys shld work ur ass out to get urs and stop hating cos some black ppl are enjying the fruit of their labour. well i thank the rest of the irish ppl dat did not think that way, it shows not all irish ppl are like those idiots.
as much as i would like to insult all these low lifes posting rubbish on this, i feel they are not worth it. they're just uneducated low-life scum seeking some attention. may toyosi's soul rest in peace, may he have justice and may all who have mocked his death by posting outrageous, illiterate and racist comments, feel 10 times the pain that poor boy's mother feels today. amen.
i sense alot of anger reading the comments... they are utterly shocking and disgracefull... one thing is for certain.... blood is shed, a boy is dead... my heart goes out to the family... we need to be aware of the fact that not all irish are racist.... only the uneducated one are...... i know from facts becoz im black myself.... people who think they can lay their slow ass at home and collect "free money" can only say stupid things and racist about us black people.... their "free money" come from tax we paid... excessive college fees we pay (€11,000 a yr in my case).... so get over urself u jobless alcoholics and get some tranin, and move forward coz people like padraic are holding this country bk... if u cant deal with us black people. TOUGH!!!!!! we are here to stay and the sooner u realise that, the better!!!!!!
I am a Nigerian, and i am proud of it. I ve been here for ten years. I am black and have lots of black and white friends. I have a degree and therefore entitled to get a good professional job. does dat mean u want to kill me too u racist saddist. I see my self through college wit no family, does dat mean i deserve to die? u guys blame blacks 4 all your problem but dats a lie. I truely tink your are d cause of it. All my nigerian friends and i did the same with one thing in mind, a successful future. We struggle enough wit people like u being cruel to us everyday and don`t need fools like yous posting tings like dis. We get it ur racist ! Good for you and clap 4 urself. now bog off psycho. do you no wat happen wen i applied for council house? 3 white people and 1 black with the same criteria, guess wat d 3 white people got it and not me. if u weren`t such an idiot u will no dat d govt already has d system of favoring citizens over foreigner was in place. der is one thing for sure i pay tax and i have a car and a house and ucker likes yous still complains den der is a problem. most black i no are working and payin taxes and the ones on d dole r on it temporarily bcos der r still tryin to land on their feet. don`t blame d ones dat gets dole bcos dey save and get a car with it. is it jealousy on how well the black could maintain their self and resources instead of drinking themself to dead. try learning from it rather dan hating. I am black, i ve being treated badly by racist people and still i m not racist, wat does that say about me? so wat if some blacks are louds. we have fun without gettin drunk and i think u can learn from it. we work harder and value lifes more. I am forever proud to b black. By d way not all blacks are nigerian k!
RIP toyosis... u will b surely missed.
People need to get it out of their heads that he was murdered for being black. It's the media and the sick mind of the people bringing race into the situation.
When people walk down the road at night in Finglas, when they get attacked, are they attacked because they're white? No.
They're attacked because they're in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I'm from Finglas, and a lot of people get stabbed and shot that you don't hear about in the media....Why not? Because there are double standards out there that people don't realize they have. Why is there uproar just because the victim is black?
I thought everyone was supposed to be equal!!
P.S
#70 Karimah: Irish people did not take any slaves from Africa over here. Any slaves brought over were taken under British rule.
I AM SOOOOO GUTED. I WAS ALMOST IN TEARS GOING THROUGH THESE COMMENT... THE RATE AT WHICH SOME PEOPLE CAN BE SO IGNORANT IS UNBELIVABLE. THE POOR YOUNG FELLA HAD JUST LOST HIS LIFE FOR BEEN BLACK ND ALL D LIKES OF PADRAIC ND JOSEPH O' CEALLAIGH COULD TALK ABOUT IS HOW THE BLACK PEOPLE ARE BRINGING PROBLEMS TO THEIR ECONOMY.....WELL I DONT BLAME THEM, THEY ARE JUST STUCK IN THE WORLD OR THEIR LOW LIFE, DIRTY AND STINKING COUNCIL FLAT AND MINI GARDEN AND DONT KNOW AW MUCH THE WORLD HAS MOVED ON.I HAVE MET THE LIKES OF THESE EMPTY HEADED WHILE I WAS IN SCHOOL AND CURRENTLY AT WORK. THE RACISM BLOOD FLOWS IN THEIR VEINS BUT SOME OF THEM TRY NOT TO SHOW IT. @PADRAIC ATLEAST THE BLACK PEOPLE COLLECTING DOEL ARE WISE ENOUGH TO MAKE A BETTER USE OF IT UNLIKE THE DUMP IRISH DOEL COLLECTORS THAT SPEND THEIRS ON ALCOHOL AND DRUGS. WHETHER BLACK WHITE OR GREEN LET US ALL CONTRIBUTE BY PRAYING FOR THE FAMILY AND FOR TOYOSI'S SOUL TO REST IN PERFECT PEACE. WE LOVE YOU BUT ALMIGHTY GOD LOVE YOU MORE.
ARE YOU FOR REAL POSTING COMMENTS LIKE THAT ON THIS ARTICLE, SOMEBODY WAS KILLED...
Y'ALL MAKE ME FEEL SICK TO BE IRISH!!! DUMB & IGNORANT FOOLS I DONT EVEN WANA CURSE YOU...GOD CAN DEAL WITH UR DISGUSTING RUDENESS!!!
EWW NATURALLY EWW!!!
& FYI ''THEY'' HAVE ONE OF THE MOST RESPECTUFULL CULTURES!! GET TO KNOW BEFORE YOU JUDGE!!
RIP LIL BOY...x
I am DISGUSTED and ASHAMED at this behavior. Go to your room!
All I have to say is: Padraic, Irish 4 Life, Paul Smith, Eoin and co., I'll like to ask what jobs you do or what college you went to(if you ever went to one) before continuing. As I suspect you are on drugs that's why you are on about money and emigration when the death of a young chap is concerned. Well, I'll love to meet any one of you people and see if you can confront me face to face or say those rubbish to my face, as I am sooooo not a fifteen year old boy. I promise you.
Our friend Is dead and all you's rascist people are talking about CRAP!
You's all Will rot in Hell same as the bastard that Killed Our friend . And yes Im black but i have never seen rasicism to this Level. and im sick of it ! I dont judge white people, but you's always seem to JUDGE US ! why ? what did we ever do to you's ? what did TOY ever do to white people Nothing ! and im crying as im writing this cause it hurts. why would you stabb or shoot or rape an innocent person cause of their skin ! But i assure you this has only made us strong and we will stick together as one ! No matter all the rude or ignorant comments you make . WE ARE STILL BLACK AND PROUD ! [R.I.P TOY YOUR FOREVER IN OUR HEARTS <3 ]
Toyosi went to the same secondary school as my little brother and me.
I was at the school on saturday in solidarity with his family and friends.
Im white , and irish, and have nothing in common with these racist bastards who have nothing better to do than spout hatred at a dead boy.
There is only one world and one human race , and no room in it for the ignorant and bigoted.
I am so sick and saddened by all the negative comments posted by padraig and his likes. It is so sad that people in this day and age still think of black people as being the cause of their problems. I am so proud and blessed to be black, i have lived and worked in Ireland for years now and i know for sure that not all Irish people are as stupid and dumb as paul smith and his likes, it only goes to show their level of education and intellect.
May the gentle soul of toyosi rest peacefully and may the wrath of God be on his haters including his killers and his internet killers who are killing him over and over again by their stupid comments.
DITCH THE HATRED, LETS LOVE ONE ANOTHER AND REMOVE ALL MALICE.
what the hell are you talking abut .....how will Ireland progress when they are not well educated to know that the black race are also human beings .....one thing is certain
AN IRISH MAN CAN ONLY RESPECT YOU BUT WILL NEVER ACCEPT YOU ......
because they are too primitive to understand.... that colour difference means nothing we are still 1 in Gods eye!!
It's time our government closed the borders to any more Africans coming in. Many of them have abused our asylum process and told lies to remain here (Pamela Izevbekhai anyone ?). They're very quick to shout the "R" word when it suits them and they don't have any historic links to this country. If the government doesn't act now we'll have the same problems as France in a few years - of course this African sense of entitlement doesn't help either.
To Padraic and the likes of them are fools.... if u peel both skin(black&white)..it is the same COLOUR underneath...NO GREEN SKIN OR BLUE BLOOD!
it is just plain inferiority complex affecting this idiot called Padraic
omfg?,, wtf? ,,, its the 21st century?
irish 4 life, padraic? n smith?,, wud ye hav some cop on lik wtf??.. AN INNOCENT CHILD WAS KILLED COS OF ES COLOUR!!.. THEY WORK LIK D REST OF U!! DEY DRIV N LIVE DER BECAUSE DEY EARNED DER MONEY N WORK DER!! U ILLITERATE R SOMETHING?,, YOUR A HEARTLESS IDIOT WIT NO BIT OF COPE ON IN UR HEAD SO WHAT BCOZ A PERSONS AFRICAN U CANT B MIDDLE CLAS! IF U DONT WANT TO WALK N TAKE D BUS!! get a job!? recessiom r not if U WANT to DRIVE U WILL TRY AS HARD TO MAKE SURE IT POSSIBLE!! is it der fault u have to take d bus ? wer u forced to? no!! RACIST BASTARDS!! I WUDNT WISH D SAME ON U COS IM NOT A BAD PERSON! I HAVE A HEART ,,BU IF I CUD! I WUD HOPE U EXPERIENCE THIS FAMILY HAVE TO GO TO JUS COS OF WHAT U SED!! uve obviously never lost some on!!.. YOU GUYS DISGUST ME!!!
REST IN PEACE TOY!!
I can only say how mortified I am as an Irish person to read some of these comments. I sincerely hope that our neighbours and friends in the African community don't think we all feel this way. I know though that many of them experience discrimination on a daily basis. I welcome the diversity they bring to our society and find it heartbreaking to think that we are such an immature nation that we can't accommodate the differences of others.
RIP Toyosi
Man this is crap
this is real CRAP
RIP toyisi...
i swerar i willl avenge u.....
Does it really matter the colour of someones skin?? The fact is a 15 year old child was murderd. It is such a shame that an innocent childs life has been taken. Thats wat the issue is here and not the cars people drive or houses they live in. My deepest sympathy goes to all toyosi's friends and family. May he rest in peace
Bad as these comments are, they're probably all the same poster, some hack from the Stormfront Ireland website. The posts are full of the same typical rubbish they spout there.
i think i speak for all of us wen i say dat you (racists )are an infection on our community and we wud rather have them (africans) in than you...RIP Toyosi
At what point do we quantify life with immigration or colour? at what stage is a 15yr olds life worthless with the absence of emotions. can we all just sit back and remove the context of personality, it makes no difference if we black, white, blue chinese, hispanic or disabled, better still, remove nationality. i have meet some great irish even as young as age 10 and i admire them at so tender ages because lately, i think education should be mandatory without prejudice. a 15yr old boy got stabbed, this is what i beg and implore everyone to remember. it is a pity the way he left and circumstances sorrounding it. ignore the ignorance of others mentality, leave hatred behind, be focused, to toyosi's mum and family, i hope you will find the courage and strenght to see this through and hope and pray that this occurance does not change your opinions and perception of the irish, to toyosi's friends, i only ask this of you, celebrate his life, consider this a test to who you are and what you can be, dedicate your hardwork in his memory as i believe, one day you will help change ireland and the world. to the irish community, i do not see irish or english or africans, i see humans irrespective of our colour pigments, im sure when you do read the blogs here you will have mixed emotions, believe me when i say, we hold you no grudge and will forever be grateful for your hospitality in our times of troubles and needs.i am black, a nigerian and from lagos to be exact and i am proud of what and whom i am and will not change it for a billion years. and finally to him whom im sure is with his creator...i never met you or maybe i did pass by you or was on the same bus with you without knowing, from your friends testimony and accounts of why it was you that got stabbed, i wished i was related to a soul as yours. REST IN PEACE little one...
I live in the area close to where this happened. I am shocked and disgusted as are all of the people in Tyrrelstown. But lets be clear about this, this was not a racist attack and its deplorable that the media and various vested interests are trying to position it as such.
there are way more Irish people in America than Ireland .. not to talk of other countries in the world.. comon like y'all be reasonable.. all this guys gere sayin stupid things about black ppl.. have obviously nt left their backyard before.. and ii am very sure they r very unintelligent human beings.. otherwise dey won't b complain bout us "taking all yo job" coz ii know for a fact.. that iif an Irish person and a black person comes with the exact same qualification for a certain job.. the Irish person would get d job ..my mum works in an oil company.. as a computer scientist she works her butt off ..Monday to friday ..9-5.. .. to surport our family y do u fink she still az r job?.. well she still as her job because she is ..damn well good at what she does. she pays tax.. now where do ya fink da tax goes to.. huh?..now .. how many Irish people in this country are willing to work hard when dey can jst sit at home an watch t.v.. and be getting money ..coz most of d hard workin Irish ppl willing to work hard for their money as left d country to ANOTHER country.. and d very little qualified Irish ppl left..willing to work hard r very little to surpport d economy.. dats wer foreign ppl come in.. so dnt u dare.. CALL US PARASITES OKAY..? .. ii am only 15 yrs old ..as u cn probarbly tell an ii ave experienced racism iin diiz country iitz nt even funny.. all ii cn say iis shame on you.. racist ppl commenting on diis thang cos yo d type of ppl.. dat won't let racism die down.. Toy waz killed for being black ye.. so nw ii shuld b scared of goin ou ..in fear ii would get stabbed coz ii am black .. lyk comon..y'all cnt survive without black ppl .. lyk Mr Seyi said up there..imagine iif iit was a black person da stabbed an Irish person.. e prob get life iin jail.. .. diiz jst makes me wanna work harder in school .. so ii cn "take all yo jobs".. dnt worry ii wont disappoint ya .. ..oo an am Nigerian too.. proud to b 1......Rest in Peace .. Toy..
WATTDE F**K.i actually dont get this.. toyosi was one of the most amazin people ever .,((and still is))) he never had any problems with white people. he loved them the same way he loved african people he never had anytin against them BUT he got stabbed by one. he never done enytin on them.:((( what i dont get is , that if toyosi was white. yus would all feel sorry for him. but jus because he was black its all wrong right? i sooo agree with ''aisling n josh'' and even thou im white. id still prefer livin with africans then white people.even thou i hav nun against white or irish!! .is jus that african people nevr did enytin to whites so why do they hav to attack africans?and why toyosi?? he never done enytin wrong.. he ddnt deserve this..R.I.P toyosi..:(((
I am very Proud to say i am black..
and da black community in Ireland are shocked at what happened to our innocent boy Toyosi .[[ GOD REST HIS SWEET LIL SOUL ]] I am actually disgusted to see that people think he deserved to die .
He did nothing wrong to this country.
but he was murdered for being black .
Can some body explain to why being black is so bad ?
i really want to know what we have done to deserve all this hate.
And that stupid c**t of a mother f****r had da nerve to call us "PARASITES"
WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS THAT GOD PUT ON THIS EARTH ALONG WITH HUNDREDS OF OTHER RACES!!!
I am only seventeen but i am very shocked at the behavior of some the Irish people in this country .i am aware that not all Irish people think about black people in this way but , you've got all of us black people living in fear now. and the only reason we we came to this country in the first place is for us to have better education and to get good jobs to feed our families.
Is that so wrong ??
I was disgusted, angry and quickly in tears because of the life that has been cut short, how it happened, the prospect of that life, the inexplicable PAINS his mother is feeling, and the deeply hurtful, and extremely annoying comments of Padraic and his group. Comments that reveal immense ignorance, wickedness, hate, stupidity, weakness and even worse a troubled mind and mostly because I can't put a knife through their hearts, eyes and guts for what they did to that kid. But I was immediately comforted by the really intelligent, and sympathetic comments of other Irish people like Emm, Gem and many others because they showed me that there is hope for humanity after all and reinforced my thoughts that not all white people are racist .
Its already been established by majority of the comments here that Padraic and his group have inner issues.
Now the origin of those issues will, I think, point directly to how we as humans have failed. How we forgot to love each other especially because we all have to live in this world. Padraic, and all those that share his boat, the killers of that young lad and the deceased are victims of human issues. We need to stop looking at the surface, dig deep and treat the root of these issues. Until then, there will just be more murders of this and other nature. We have these reactions because we are near it. I propose that we start by keeping an eye on people like Padraic and his brothers. But what? I am just a young Nigerian girl whose voice cannot be heard for a lot of reasons like the one we are currently weeping about RACISM.
WDf its not our fault u lot are lossin ur Jobs, its not the blacks fault is it. it started in america , get ur facts rite.
what did the black ever do to u , u irish lil bastards killed one of us yeah and all u can think of is the goverment wdf ur stupid mann we learned how to accept the white why cant u accept the black ? KMT wastemannsss the lot of u man go and rot in hell.
Sure enough, darkness falls and all the roaches crawl out, staining this thread with their putrid, odious and hateful rants. Thank goodness, from the vast majority of comments on this thread, there is an abundance of sturdy feet that continue to squash all these roaches into silence. To all the Irish men and women on this thread who have spoken up to condemn this vile murder, I salute you, and I’m sure the poor boy’s family will be heartened by your words. I am a Nigerian immigrant myself, lived here seven years with my three children. As a professional, I have not collected a single dime in social welfare, yet I drive a “fancy” car and live in my own house. So tell me Padraic & co: How does that make me a parasite? I have long feared for my family’s safety, hence my decision years ago not to buy a house in West Dublin. Every immigrant will have a different story, but I have occasionally questioned my decision to come to Ireland, but it’s never an easy thing to up and go, so I’m still here. And when I think about it, human beings everywhere are essentially the same; no country is racism-free. In fact, history clearly shows the Irish in colonial America were reviled almost as much as black slaves. And in recent times, the “drunken Irish” continue to be the butt of jokes the world over. So it is something of a profound irony that some Irish people look down on immigrants. Yes blacks are particularly hated because of our skin colour, but racists in Ireland have attacked and killed a significant number of Eastern Europeans (although these murders are hidden in overall white-on-white crime, and are not generally given a racist slant). The sad truth is prejudice runs deep in the Irish society, whether the overt kind that bubbles up into racial taunts and murder, or the more subtle kind that shows up in the workplace, on public transport, at the mall. Incidents like this sad murder are like a dark light that forces each person to confront the prejudiced monster within and either let it roam free or banish it. And yes it works both ways. Out of fear and anger and frustration, some blacks will be tempted to say “Ireland is a racist country, and this killing proves it”, “all Irish are racist”. That would be profoundly wrong. Ireland is NOT a racist country, and not every Irish person is racist, as this comment thread clearly proves. So I appeal to my black brothers; Let us unite in condemning this wicked murder. Let us urge the government to pursue the killers with the full strength of the law. Let us not give in to our anger and brush all Irish people in the same broad strokes. Let us be resolved to continue to uphold our traditional values of hospitality, neighbourliness, respect, honesty. Let this poor boy’s death be, not an occasion to breed hate, but one to celebrate our African-ness and our partnership with the great Irish people to forge “a more perfect union”
i'm happy to say i'm black yeah , buh WDF did we do to you lot ? ahh No Man , this isnt fair like some of the comments i see here what did we do to get this we have all learned how to accept the white why cant u lot accept the black we all have noses , eyes , ears , hair etc where just a different colour. its not just blacks theres other colours too , why are u lot not racist to them ? mostly the black im not saying to be racist to them buh us black people are actually scared to walk out of our houses now because of most of the comments. Our friend has just lost his life because of racism , and all u lot are thinkin of is getting us out of the country ? in africa if white people came we wouldnt eat anyone alive as one of the comments says. even tho were here were proud of where we came from buh we came here to start a better life. do you lt know how africa is even poor ? because of u european going there and taking our stuff did u know africa founded diamonds did you know africa found oil , european countries stole all of this and now we are poor if uz gave us that back i'd say ina matter of a few minutes you people wouldnt see a handful of black people. so shut up people being racist about this and learn how to accept black, white , yello , mixraced people. Im Disgusted.
Them Rasist Nobodys Aut 2 Be Ashamed Of Derself's..I Cant Imagine What Tat Poor Boys Family Is Goin Through An All You's Thicks Can Do Is Go On Slaging Dem..You's Will get Ur Up And Coming's!! Rip Toyosi x
It is not a crime to be a black, God knows why He made us black, we are proud of our black skin. Black for life.
Padraig and likes of him are disgrace not just to whites,but to humans at all.Gosh,i will not even bother typing too many words on those kind of people,except to say why shouldn't all other contries close borders to irish immigrants?U know there are millions of Irish people in America and Australia and all over the world,including their descendants,so Padraig and rest of yous like him,you know what?All of us( including myself) foreign people will leave Ireland when all Irish people come back here,but by then have one big BACK OFF.What has happened to this young lad is complete disgrace!!! I am ashamed of being white sometimes when these kind of things happen.I hope the scum that did it.... get what they deserve,but not in jail.When they come to God,that's when the real justice will be done.I have been judged for marrying a Nigerian national.Many things we've been through,including similar situation to this,but it has never come to either one of us being stabbed or anything like this.Toy,may your soul rest in peace and may your family find their own peace of mind at some point in their lives.
And forgot to mention to people here who are from Africa.Not all whites are like that,so please abeg that you don't judge everyone the same way.I am white from Eastern Europe,but ever since i came to live in Ireland as a young girl, I went to schools with many Africans,have loads of African friends and at the end i married a Nigerian,so i myself wonder some of your questions as well.We should all be united in this grief.... Once again,may his Soul rest in peace and my sincere condolences go out to his family.
I'm Irish, very happily married to a lovely Nigerian woman, two children. I appeal to the Nigerians not to think that the morons who try to justify a sick killing of a young boy are in any way representative of the Irish people.
I've worked in London with people from all over the world, including Nigerians and other Africans.
Most of the Nigerians I know are hard-working people who got work during the boom years, so lost their jobs since, like Irish people (myself included), but migrants didn't cause the recession.
We need a more pro-active approach to integration, let's get the GAA, FAI, IRFU and other sporting bodies more active.
It's good to see many young boys and girls from the migrant communities playing Gaelic games, speaking Irish, and singing Irish songs.
Ireland certainly needs to do more to tackle racist thugs, but I appeal to Africans not to lose hope in their adopted land.
As far back as the 17th century, one of our poets, I can't recall which of them, wrote "Tugaim mo ghrá don chine Gael, idir geal 's gorm." (I give my love to the Irish people, both white and black).
He was referring to the "black Irish" in the Caribbean, but it can apply today also.
I AM SO SHOCKED DAT SO CALD HUMAN BEINGS CULD TALK DIS WAY. I'M SURE GOD IS SAD ND DISAPPOINTED FOR CREATING PPLE LIKE PADRAIC,JOSEPH ETC.A YOUNG MAN'S LIFE IS TAKEN AWAY B4 HIS TIME ND ALL SUM SCUMBAGS CULD TALK ABT IS IMMIGRATION,TOO SAD.I THOT IRELAND WAS MEANT TO BE A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY,WAT HAPPENED TO 1 OF D 10COMMANDMENTS DAT STATES "LOVE UR NEIGHBOUR AS U LUV URSELF"
RIP TOYOSI,MY CONDOLENCES 2 TOY'S FAMILY ND FRIENDS. GOD IS D BEST JUDGE
A child has died. i'm crying for the loss of his life. please wake up and show some consideration for his perants who have lost a child. R.I.P.
ha some of the small minded people on this collumm are just right damn brain deads. they have had no education. and the only way to make themselves feel better about their failure in life is to blame it on the minorities. like would you bleeding cop on. its not the blacks faults that your on the bleeding dole and living out of a dumpster. im black and bin living here since i was a kid. i went through school and college and got my self an education and now have a job. because i worked hard for it. me ma is paying a mortgage on her house by her self. now where these retards get the idea that black people live for free. sure bleeding snap out of it and cop on to life. for your information there is over 40 million irish people abroad immigrating. naw shut the f**k up. get off the gear and get a life. rip toyosi your death will not be in vain XXXXXXx
Sweet Lord what a can of worms has been opened!
The death was sad. Racism is infantile.
The comment here just show how retarded some people are... white AND black! Yes, you, black person feeling attacked! And yes you, white person feel all down-trodden! Wake up people!
When education teaches us that DAT = that and CALD = called then it's it's no wonder people are dying. "Oh look, a gun, I wonder what it does? I'd know only I didn't pay attention in school! Oh it shoots things! Ha ha I can kill people and then get shot myself!"
You're all idiots!
Stop racism and hatred, throw religion out the window, God doesn't give a damn about you as he doesn't exist!
LEARN!
honestly i cant belife it has all come down to this african nigerians against irish. things could get alot worse with these kind of irish ppl coming on this not givin a s***t about toyosi . wat do u want black ppl to live as slaves for the rest of our lifes look my ppl slavery time is over so lets get on with life n stop hatin against each other cause of our colour irish ppl are also spread all over the world so is so is every other race in the world so talking about black ppl drvin nice cars they are the well educated nigerians not all n hard working ones same goes for the irish the uneducated irish is ppl like Pádraic but we know ppl like them n trust me they wount last long u want to start killin its either goin to stop or get worse
Padraic you're the biggest idiot here, ireland should be ashamed of you cause it's people like you that's giving your country a bad name. This country is so backwards because of peolple like and as long as there are people like you i can promise you ireland will never move forward. All of you are saying you see black people driving fancy cars and dressing fancy. I'll tell you why, when we get money we use it constructively, what do you (PUB).
i am disappointed yet not surprised at padriac and his flesh eating, blood sucking brodas.u fools blame the blacks 4 living big, i gues ur blindness has not only taken ur sight, but ur sanity. Blacks are hardworking and r goal getters, dey made good use of wot comes to dem and made their lives beta.instead of gettin challenged and doing good 4 urselves,y'all drop comments dat shouldnt be heard. shame on u guys. it shows u r threatened and blacks are beta dan u.Irish ppl r nt all bad, jst d few lots like padriac.and as for he dat claims dat whites r raped and eaten by blacks, u av bn misled.i suggest u ppl shud just go back 2 ur country and close ur doors, do not relate wit anybody except irish, lets see if u'll survive. my condolence to TOY's family
1st of all @ A H, GOD does exist and HE most certainly gives a damn bout every living creature in the world, all y'all need to do is open ur heart and accept HIM. believe me, i'm a living testimony.
as for the racial comments on this page, its absolutely disgraceful,and disgusting.....i'm black n i'm forever proud of my colour but that don't mean i should blame others for my mistakes....its tym y'all take responsibility for urselves and b determined to be a better person and see how better things will go for you, don't blame others for your misfortunes.....y'all need to change ur mindsets n get a life....my heart goes out to TOYOSI'S family, may the almighty GOD console and comfort them....R.I.P Toy
irish4 life.. U ARE A DUMBASS RACIST asshole.... d reason why u live in acouncil house.. is beacus u wasted ur time n scool..maybe if u would have gotten a better job, wi better results u wouldnt be blaming black people.. fr ur dumbass stupidity... nd padraic... i f**kin hate u, ppl like u should just go and die.. cus ur nt wanted or needed in this world
As for those who say that if an Irish guy went to Africa he'd be killed, well let me say I've been to Nigeria and got a great welcome in Lagos. I'd people coming up and shaking my hand everywhere. Some Irish think all Africans live in the jungle, they don't realise there are big cities there with skyscrapers, banks, hotels.
I don't entirely agree with AH, as I'm a Christian and I believe the churches have a big role to play in bringing people together.
A friend of mine who is a doctor in north London always reckons the Church helped to bring the blacks and Irish together there and that's what I saw myself when I lived in London.
But that said, I'd also say that many non-religious people have been more accepting to migrants in Ireland than many who say they are good Catholics.
I can recall walking down O'Connell St with an associate from the Congo some years back.At the time-late ninties-I was genuinely taken aback by the levels of verbal abuse being directed at him during our short 10 minute walk together.But heres the thing..what I remember most about the experience was his ability to rise completely above what was going on around him.I will never forget the admiration I felt for someone with so much dignity and self-belief on the inside.At one point he glanced at me and actually smiled in the heat of all this blind hatred.I am not ashamed to say that I was pretty nervous!So pls people,let me continue to have this fond memory of what makes such a special race stand out and way above the others.Dont be dragged down and provoked,rise above it all and you will be forever free.
Having read the above bile it seems phrases like 'Luck of the Irish', Everyone loves Paddy Boy,Happy go lucky,Can take a joke,Danny boy,Most loved country in Europe by the outside World, Friendly Irish,Love of the Irish,Best hosts,Irish jokes,Enter a pub on St Patricks day -and you'll have a pint of Guiness in your hand in no time !,Irish Jig,Staggering Irishman -hic' etc , is no longer the modern day view - especially after the WORLD reads about the latest news . It took years to cultivate the wonderful and colourful image of Ireland. Selling Ireland is going to be a tough job - sadly a hard core of the present generation has killed Ireland's image STONE DEAD in the water. This is a DARK and new dawn.
My condolences to the family and friends of 'Toy'.
I AM GOING TO WRITE IN CAPLOCKS BECAUSE I AM REALLY PISSED RIGHT NOW. SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST SO IGNORANT.
AM NIGERIAN, MY MUM IS PAYING 9000EUROS 2 D IRISH ECONOMY FOR COLLEGE FOR ME WHILE MY IRISH MATES ARE PAYING JUST A HUNDRED EUROS. COULD YOU PLEASE COMAPRE 9THOUSANDS TO HUNDRED. ALL MY MOTHERS MONEY AND SAVINGS IS GOING TO THIS STUPID, LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ECONOMY. AND SOME IRISH PEOPLE STILL HAVE THE GUTS TO COME HERE AND CHAT RUBBISH. TO SAY TO SOME OF YOU LOWGRADED IRISH ONES. THE ONLY REASON YOU ARE ALIVE IS BECAUSE OF ME. MAYBE IF YOU GET SOME EDUCATION YOU WILL HAVE MONEY AND STOP BLAMING IT ON US BLACK PEOPLE. I WORK MY FLIPPING ASS OFF, AND HALF OF MY MONEY IS GOING TO FLIPPING TAX. PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH BEFORE YOU JUDGE
2010 and 99.9% of the world is over racism but there still some people in this world who cant understand that the only thing that separates white from black is melanin in your skin.. we all have hearts, brains, lungs that function in the same way so why hate because of skin colour .. ever hear that you shouldnt judge a book by its cover.. well i shouldnt be talkin about books cause if most of you irish people had read your books in school and did well in your exams you wouldnt find someone to blame for you failure .. and what you talking about immigration during you lots famine majority of the country moved out !! and were only coming in to fill the spaces why is that so bad.. we never hurt you lot.. and people on social welfare are only on it to build up their lives .. and you lot are tlking like were the only ones on it.. padraic you keep blaming blacks for your failure and your not gonna be succesful .. if this news goes international ireland is goin to be labeled as racist ... and not all white people are racist why?.. because there civilized and intelligent to know not to judge people because of there skin.. and there the ones who are successfull.. R.i.p Toy your seen as a hero you showed everyone that racism still exist in modern society especially Ireland .. and i dont know about the rest but me .. im gonna walk outside like nun happend cause i fear nothing but God ... :)
Its Very Pain ful like.. im actually speechless.. bu being black is the best becoz me my self im black and im pround!!.. jealous is nt gonna bring yous anywre white ppl.. Like Readin this its a SHAME! Some1 passed away nd yous are sayin all this WDF?? Ireland has te change!! its gettin tooo far like.. Toy Hunii R.I.P.. Look after yur family.X
dis is when black people need to use their voodoo, on sum EFFIN irish ppl rather using it on their own,....coz some irish comments ere, is just making me REALLY REALLY ANGRY...coz d last time i checked irsh ppl have emigrated to australia, america...and so on...so y are dey nagging....and dey shud feel ashamed about killin a young teenager, regardless of the colour, and effing padraic, panty wateva d eff his name is, talking a load of bull crap...this is unbelievable....utter disgust.... and really saddening. GOD HELP US...
I cant help but notice that since poor padraic#1 and Irish4life(Jesus,now there's a name to be proud of)not so much as a mouse's fart!And then there was sad Paul(nobody understands me)Smith.wonder what crack he crawled back into.Anyway,anybody wanna go see if they re ok?...NAH,In memory of one of the greatest Irishmen ever to walk among us,the one and only Phil Lynott-One of Phil s favorite songs was of another legend shot down on the streets of Manhattan..."LET IT BE"!
There was a lot of stuff that led up this tragedy, there is 2 sides to every story, and unfortunately a teenager is dead,, its a sad time,, i hope lessons will be learnt from this by both communities and the gangs dat r roaming the streets of tyrellstown will let people live in peace in their own homes,, so dat this doesnt happen again..rip young man...
I read through some of the comments posted and was sick to the guts... A young boy lost his life,his only fault was been born black and all the ignorants can talk about is houses,cars... all these can be bought with money if they work very hard... but life cannot be bought with money.... No Mother should bury their kids regardless of colour or race....
wow! I'm so shocked at some of these racist comments,racism being the center of this brutal murder...at a time when friends and family are grieving for the death of a son,brother,nephew and friend...here we see ignorant and inconsiderate people such as "Padraig"
(God forgive you by the way!)..it just shows that there are a lot of very uneducated people out there..they should maybe go back to school before opening their mouths and talk such crap!!.
I have some conversations with people about Africans who are in this country most of us agree that 99 persent should be sent back.
If they are working and have work visas let them stay and make what they can of life here but if they came as asylum seekers send them back.
Under UN law you have to seek asylum in the first country you arrive in.
Ireland had no direct flights to OR FROM Africa so how did these people arrive here for asylum?
I can see were people get annoyed when they see bogus welfare takers housed in houses and given medical cards free.
I can fully understand peoples anger when they see Africans and others playing the legal system tying it in knots to stay here and scam the hardworking Irish and other.
As for the guy who mentioned sport as a means to intergration I agree , but, until the FAI Gaa and others sporting bodies get their act together and get proper birth certs/ paper work for these African men /boys then there is no point in them running anti racism projects because kids are been short changed there too, one only has to look at what was happening in the DDSL premier league the last few years to see the mess that was made and the respect that was lost because of a few.
padraic or wateva u call ur self and u irish 4 lyf get ur self better jobs, n if dat doesnt help go back to school and upgrade your qualifications.. stop complaining and get ur selves jobs wit better money if that will make you happy. and one day you'll end up in hospital n i wnt b suprised if a black person is your doctor, what will u do?? tell them not to save ur life?? u might as wel just rot in hell the both of you;s..!! kmt
Im sooooo disgusted to hear comments from scumbags like PAT LOSER W etc!!!! A boy is dead and all you can think in your dirty little racist heads is about his COLOUR!!! I'm irish and i'm ashamed to say so because of SCUM like you lot i would take the Nigerians south africans etc over scum like you anyday... GO IN TO A HOLE AND DIE!!!! The black people in this country do a lot more work than u scumsbags have done in your whole life..... REST IN PEACE TOYOSI GOD BLESS YOUXX
This poem, written by an African child, was nominated by the UN as the best poem of 2008.
When I born, I black
When I grow up, I black
When I go in Sun, I black
When I scared, I black
When I sick, I black
And when I die, I still black
And you white fellow
When you born, you pink
When you grow up, you white
When you go in sun, you red
When you cold, you blue
When you scared, you yellow
When you sick, you green
And when you die, you gray
And you calling me colored?!
WHAT DA F**K DO YE MEAN WE BLACK PPL ARE TAKIN OVER YUR COUNTRY DYU KNO HOW HARD IT IS TO LIVE IN A FOREIGHN COUNTRY..DYU KNO DE PAIN DAT IS INFLICTED UPON US JUS FOR BEING ((BLACK!))!!NOT ONLI PHYSICALLY BUT EMOTIONALLY TOO!.GOIN 2 SCHOOL WE PUT UP WIT SO mUCH SH*T!not jus black also muslims,pakistanis,indians etc i see it with my own eyes!...anything dah ever happens we are pointed fingers at!
im actually disgusted to say im irish!ive alot of friends from other countries & i see alot of racial abuse against them sometimes & it hurts to see it.really fed up of some peoples careless racist talk & deliberatly putting out to hurt others cause of were there from or skin color,since wen does dat justify a persons worth or intelect???this lil boys life has been taking by not only what i would call scum but a grown man.to even tink of it upsets me & i didnt even know the poor boy can only imagine what his familys goin true.may god bless his little soul.some of you posting abuse on this blog should be ashamed of yourselfs ,your judgement day will come you'll see,enjoy your sad little lifes.
dese kinda ignorance is what takin young inocent black boys lives!..it sad sayin dat us vlack are ruining yur country coz if it wasnt for us nd any other nationalities coming to dis country yuz all would still be in famine !
we are all ONE RACE so plz stop dis abuse on US nd jus appreciate evn if u want to hate,hate in silence no need ta take our ppl's lives coz of hate!!!
R.I.P TOY BABY!YUR MA HERO I WILL MISS YOU ALWAYS ND YOU ARE FOREVER IN MY HEART!..LOVE YOU ALWAYS
pple lets stop exchanging words let Toyosi soul rest in peace.Let d fools talk and talk until dey get tired we r all created in da image of God.So it doesnt matter if u r black or white we r all d same.D ting with pple is dat dey dont luv themselves,if they have luved themselves dey would luv others.Peace be unto u ....
Well, what a response. Initially, I intended to respond to many of the poisonous comments above individually. Instead, however, I will keep my comments brief.
First, RIP Toyosi: a horrible, needless death. The perpetrators should be subject to the full rigour of the law. My deepest condolences to your family and friends should you read this.
Second, if - as someone above has suggested - black people in Ireland are driving "BMWs" and the like then, invariable, it's because that person has earned it through hard work and endeavour etc.
Third, it is highly ironic and somewhat bizarre to note that the vast majority of those calling for myself to receive a better standard of education or (see no.126) to "just go and die" seem to write in a highly uneducated and childish manner.
Fourth, I speak for myself alone: do not tar me with the same brush as the other racist nutcases on this board.
Fifth, the point remains: it breaks my heart to see young Irish people having to emigrate in their thousands in this day and age while immigrants continue to arrive. It's time to shut the doors: if a non-national arrives in Ireland and a) justifiably fears persecution in their homeland, or b) can do a job in our country that a nation will not then they should be allowed to stay. If neither applies, they should be shown the door.
Sixth, and contrary to many of the statements made above, simply because an individual has a degree and has made it to Ireland does not, in fact, give that person an automatic right to employment in this country: if you can't contribute to our great country then please leave. And that advice applies equally to lazy white Irish people continuing to draw social security.
Seventh, let the faux outrage and illiterate text-speak continue...
ERIN GO BRAGH
wow i cant believe wot am seeing, dis is all crazyness goin on like, a boy was killed cos he is black and some f**kin people are tlkin abt the cars people drive, wow dats really grown up people keep it up, most people work for their money and they later enjoy wot they have strive for all their lives, people sudnt be comin up here and jst talkin crazy things like this, we have to say no to racism, we all came from Adam and Eve, an sure you all av been to church at some point in your life. people should re-think before writting something
#131 "Badman": <<padraic you keep blaming blacks for your failure and your [sic] not gonna be succesful [sic]>>
Can you provide one example where I did this? I'm lucky enough to have had a fairly good life thus far and had my fair share of successes.
There really is a lot of misplaced anger out there. Furthermore, it seems that this board has been taken over by some very violent, uneducated and ranting individuals.
@#87 Andy . ANDY i admit that mistake. when i sed here i meant we were brought to EUROPE cs its not only the irish dat r rascist.....oh and IT IS A RACE ISSUE BCUS THE BOY WAS CALLD a n****R AND MANY OTHER NAMES ......thats common sense. even if it was a blak guy that was from another country that killed him because of his race IT IS STILL RACISM...u nid to go look up what rascism is..............It may be defined as the hatred of one person by another -- or the belief that another person is less than human -- because of skin color, language, customs, place of birth or any factor that supposedly reveals the basic nature of that person. It has influenced wars, slavery, the formation of nations, and legal codes.
DONT HAVTA B BCUS HES AFRICAN, CUD B BECAUSE HES NIGERIAN OR BCUS HES MUSLIM OR CRISTIAN ..
LACK OF EDUCATION IS ONE OF THE CAUSES OF RACISM....u guyz fear what you dnt understand so u react like a cat that has been backed up to a wall u lash out BLINDLY.......UVE THROWN ALL THE CLICHES ABOUT THE IRISH BEING A HAPPY FRIENDLY PEOPLE AWAY...IM NOT ANGRY ANYMORE I JUST PITY YOU.........BIBLE SAYS MY PEOPLE PERISH FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE...DONT PERISH IN UR FOOLISHNESS ..GROW THE HECK UP N LERN REAL QUICK..............i really appreciate the ones who are not ignorant and who are educated and have a heart God bless u n thank you from my heart...as for u fools? God bless u too :)
Waow. The vitriol directed at anyone who disagrees with our "open door" immigration policy is pretty amazing. I agree with Padraic -- if an immigrant has skills that we need then he/she should be welcomed and encouraged to settle. If not then why should we have to support than person? Also, the aggressive language and tone of many of the comments on this page is quite shocking - this sadly reinfoces many people's negative views of the Congolese and Nigerian communities. Let me also offer my sympathy to all those affected by this outrageous and disgusting murder.
reading all your comments made me cry....every single day is a struggle for me because of the colour of my skin,getting looks off people and people calling me a n**ger...and today was the day i said no more..(we dnt run around in the nip with sticks)the ignorant f**k who said dat....yea all the foreigners can leave,and all the irish deported bck from all the countries they're in around the world ...i wonder what would happen then....all the money brian cowen squandered would come back yea...................................................the world is gonna label ireland as racist and the country would be looked down upon!!...... congratulations to ignorance!!
Please my fellow irish,i think we forgot so soon. In the history of asylum seeking ireland is one of the largest nation in the world, i lived in africa for 20years, and they are the nicest people ever. About them taking our jobs, i think thats so stupid for an irish to say so, because the policy here is always irish first, Eu second and then others. lets not forget that our government messed up the economy and not the immigrant, they go to work, pay their mortgage like every other person. And please lets not forget that this is someone else son,brother and friend we are talking about here, it could happen to anybody
A young boy is brutally murdered in the streets of Dublin because of the colour of his skin.
A country of a 1000 welcomes should hold its head in shame.
A country that has exported its people all over the World should be a bit more understanding to others who come to live in Ireland.
Ireland has a real problem with racism
and new laws are well overdue to deal
with this issue...
all yu racists are bastards some ov us didnt even have a choice if we wanted to come to yur country or not
and we work as hard and ass much as yous do so dont even be saying all ov us ''blacks'' are on the doll cuz were not
i still cant believ in 2010 ppl are still like this we neevr askd for any ov this and because uz are white yu think yuz can domiate the world well we are all equal the same lungs mouth eyes and everytin the only thing different is our colur
and dont tink if we had education in our own countrys dat we wouldnt be there cuz trust me we wud ! we dislike being in this country and treated like scum aswell
I'v LIVED IN IREALAND MOST OF MY LIFE ND I CAN HONESTLY TELL YU DERS NOTHIG SPECIAL ABOUT DIS COUNTRY ..IF I HAD MY WAY MAN I WULDNT BE HERE BU ONLY GOD KNOWS MANND ITS NOT OUR FAULT DAH YU WHITE PPL CANT GET A JOB MAYBE IF YU WENT 2 SKWL YU WULD HAV A JOB...BLACK PEOPLE ARE THE BEST HUMAN BEINGS ..BLACK PEOPLE RUN THIS SH-T ND IF ITS LIKE THA PPL GOING AROUND KILLIN PPL CUZ OF DER COLOUR DEN DIS COUNTRY IS A KIP SIMPE AS THAT
Padraic and co,u don't have to blame immigrants for what the irish goverment did. It is the government that messed up the country, am an imigrant that have been living in ireland for 10years now and since that ten years i ve been working in this country, paying my tax which helps in building the economy. I pay for my mortgage, am in full time work,full time college,have three kids to take care of and i don't drink or smoke. Then after all this things i decides to buy a good car for myself,it will now be a crime for me to do so, cos am an immigrant. Come on, go to africa all irish people there have our big jobs in all the oil company, so y don't they wanna come back? Irish people migrate to other countries now because they work more for less pay here in ireland, For an immigrant to get a job that he went for an interview with irish, he have to be far much better than the irish. go to hospitals irish nurses have to give up their jobs to go abroad for better pay. My old dad that have worked with so many irish in african is finding it so hard to believe all that is happening. Am so sorry toy boy that some people are so happy that u died cos ur parents migrated to ireland( the best and richest country in the world that have been messed up by immigrants). We love u so much baby boy.
i am irish i was a friend of toyosis he was am amazing guy and a great footballer and u ignorant racist people make me so ashamed to be irish its the minority like use that are bringing all the irish people down complaining about people comeing in2 our country wen there are more irish people livein ouside ireland than in it many countrys have opened there doors to us we can open our doors to them how wud u feel if every irish person who lives in another country was killed for being irish 15 year old irish boys stabbed in the heart just for being irish weather he is black white irish nigerian or congolise we all the same on the inside and nobody deserves dat and at the end of the day u guys saying they takein social welfar and all that bulls**t better shut the f**k up cuz most the people on welfare are ignorant irish c**ts like ur mas and das and time to wake up and relise toy was only 15 he cudnt even claim welfare u spas he was just a child he had his whole life ahead of him ontil it was takin so wake up and smell the bloody roses were all the poxy same on the inside ...............rest in peace toyosi bby everyone misses u love u so much wish u were still here cant belive ur gone ...goodbye ontil we meet agen bby boy xxxxxxxx
I am ashamed that the Tribune is allowing its medium to be diverted by hatemongers to perpetrate this tirade of hatred towards people of foreign extraction. The newspaper group is as guilty as the killers of Toyosi. Also guilty would be Mr. Mad Mullah (former justice minister), a huge section of the print media, radio stations and talk show hosts.
first of all everyone should hold there breath and count to five, and let justice take it's course.
i have read the posts here and most of them are text speak(for use of a better word)and insults are flying between posters.the truth will come out with the Gardai investigation. This will take time but will happen, what we dont need to see is people's/property getting damaged like last monday this only stirs things up amongst the residents.
i would also like to piont out that a member of the african community a couple of years ago sadly died while setting the car on fire that they ocupied. it was reported in the media that two white guys had been seen fleeing the area,during the Gardai investigation they had proof that NO ONE else was involved reporting stories like that one only causes more anguish for the family of the deceased i hope this post is going be the last one.
The first people who killed in this world are you white people.
Look in the bible in Genisis Cain killed Abel.
Thats why you need to go back and reflect that Jesus came to bring us in togetherness. Money,house everythin will remain in this world. But know that someones blood is important to God.
The bible says the one who kills with a sword will also be killed by a sword.
Thats why lets fear the the judgement of the Lord.
We need to leave this country in the hands of the Lord.
Jesus has left us love in world.
In the 1 John the Lord has said how can you love God if the person you are seeing you don't love.
Lets love eachoda all. We all coming from the one father - God!!!
God Bless
Ah Man Where Should I Start. This Is All Like A Game To Me You Know.. See ALL (Yes I Said It ALL) You White People Hate The Fact That We Black People Seem To Be Better Than Yous At EveryThing We Do.. Ahem Please Let Me Have A Moment To Say This If Ya'll Dont Mind.. A Lil Poem That I Made For White Racist, Selfish, Arogant People..
Dear Racist.
Is It My Fault That I Prosper In Life.
And You Dont.
Is It My Fault Im Going To Heaven.
And You Wont.
Is It Just Because Im Black
And Your White.
When I Come To Your Country.
You Say I Aint Got NO RIGHTS.
But When You Come To Mine Your Treated With Respect.
But In Yours Im Treated With Disrespect.
FurtherMore Abuse And Racism Is What I Get.
I Know Im Black Thats Something I Will Not Forget.
Oh Maybe I Get It.
Your Jealous Of My Looks.
I Came To Your Country. Instantly Your Girls I Took..
The White Females All Wanna Be Black..
Putting Instant Tan On And Sorta Sh*t Like That.
Black Is The New Colour.
All You Whites Gotta Face It.
Stop Hating On Us And Just Give Up Being Racist.
Well All I Can Say Is Keep Hating..
When This World Will End.
The Racist Will Only Join Satan.
Amen.
I Aint Got Much To Say But You White People Are A F**king Waste Of Space. Hate On Me If You Want To.. I Am 17 Years Old. I Have 2Years In Adavance Of My Late Beloved Friend Toy. MayBe Yous Should Stab Me In The Heart Also.. But Let Me Tell Yous One Thing I Aint A Weak Black. Cause Yous Will Be Having Some Trouble Trying To Take Me Out I Assure You That. But Like I Said In One Of My Old Songs 'I May Be Skinny By The Way You See Me. But Looks Can Be Deceptive, Il Break You, You'l See'.
I Thank You For Taking This Time To Reading A Black Teens Point Of View On Racism. You Can Even Call Me The Cracker Killer If Yal Wantt.
Peace My Racist Friends I Aint Got Nothing But Love For Yas:)
Toyosi was one of my close friends...its 2010 not 1910?
People need to realise we are all one race..
The Human race..
and the barriers of skin couler need to be broken..
as for Padrig or whatever all i can say is Grow a Brain..
there are 30 million people that claim irish heritige worldwide..only 4.5 million live in ireland...
So ireland has the most emigrants in other countries..
IM WHITE AND I DONT AGREE WIT ANY OF DIS BULLSH** SUM PPL AR COMMENTIN ON DIS UR MAN ''IRISH FOR LIFE'' TALKIN BOU DAH HOME N CARS HE WANTS AND IS PISSED OFF COZ SOME BLACK PPL HAS WA HE DUZNT AND DREAMS ABOUT WELL MAYB U DIDN WORK AS HARD AS DEY DID U IGNORENT FU** , PEOPLE KEEP SAYIN IN COMMENTS TO DAT BLACK PEOPLE AR TAKEIN AR JOBS AND WHATEVER BUT WHAT ABOUT THE IRISH DAT GO TO AMERICA AND AUSTRAILA AND ENGLAND? ITS THE EXACT SAME TING JST SKIN COLOUR DATS AL IT IS ,I DONT EVEN NO Y PEOPLE AR TALKIN ABOU AL DIS SH** ON DIS ANYWAY ITS NOT DAH POINT ITS DAH POINT DAH SUM KID DAT A FEW OF MY MATES KNEW ,GOT KILLED JST FOR DAH COLOUR OF HIS SKIN.... ..THE RACISM IN THIS COUNTRY IS A JOKE AND SHUD BE SORTED OUT WHAT HAV BLACK PEOPLE DONE SO WRONG TO NOT BE ABLE TO WALK HOME SAFE ENOUGH BECAUSE OF THE COLOUR OF DEYR SKIN?
I never knew such hidden racism existed in Ireland. Racism exists but no to the extent of a young boy being stabbed to death. What is Ireland turning into?? Most people commenting on this are talking about how immigrants are coming in to leech on them, but that is not the case. Ignorance is a very infectious disease and as im seeing many are suffering from it. First of all, we blacks are not here to take your jobs, we do the jobs that you Irish people refuse to do because you feel you are too big to do them. We blacks and other races contribute greatly to the Irish economy. for ignorant Irish people i can tell u more about your own history than you could so please spare me this jargon about us 'PARASITES' leaving your country. There are some Irish people who have not worked a day in their lives, what would you call them?? how are they surviving? they are taking from the government but they are not putting any back in. That is what is depressing the country and not immigrants. My heart goes out to the family of the young boy!! He had a promising future but now that future has been taken away. No bad deed goes unpunished. Even if the perpetrators are punished here the greater punishment lies in heaven.
Padraic, its unfortunate that despite all said u're still adamant on ur disgruntled, peevish opinion, which of course u're entitled to. Its just that ur ignorance is beyond comprehension. U spell ur name with so much patriotism and yet basic knowledge of common European immigration and Employment law eludes you. U really need some kind of exposure. hmm..wonder why there is so much suck-ups and pleas for Irish imigrants in America. There's no fundamental uniqueness about Ireland unlike most other countries...whether u like it or not...NOBODY, LAW OR GOVT can stop emmigration in any part of d world. Jeez, get a shrink Padraic..u need one.
hey padraic...
i am black and at first when i i saw this i was just astonished and disgusted but then i decided to look at it from your point of view. And i must say i understand why you could be angry about the immigrants that come here and dont work. Thats a problem in every country that offers social welfare. But on the other hand you if you count the number of people over the age of 18 who are not working/useless to the economy you would realise that the black people would not make up to 1% of these individuals, the other 99 percent are irish people locally labelled as knackers, scumbags and shams etc. When it comes down to just the "useless" people, the black ones are still more favourable because they might not work but at the same time they do not sell or use drugs, they do not go around starting fights, they dont break into peoples cars and houses, they do not wander the streets while under the influence of alcohol getting arrested for disorderly behaviour in public, they do not go around making minorities feel unsafe i could go on listing more things but i think you get the point. Instead this "useless" people stay in their houses and try to make use of the free money and health care provided for them.
Please dont get this twisted i am in no way trying to justify that kind of behaviour i am just trying to point out the fact that you have a valid argument but the fact of the matter is that you are pointing fingers a the wrong crowd. because lets deal with it if all black people left the country that would just mean more money and more jobs but to be honest these "scumbags" are out of jobs either because they are not qualified to do them are they just are not bothered so it doesn`t matter whether there are blacks in Ireland or not emigration of citizens is inevitable and the "scumbags" would always be lazy incompetent people who have no plans of change.
I hope this cleared the air a bit.
now we can face the real matter at hand.
R.I.P Toyosi
Chris #60
When did you ever become an expert on aids when the experts themselves are still not 100% sure of its origins. Have you a Ph.D. doctorate or are you a microbiology expert or a member of the WHO/World Health Organization?
The truth is, it is likely that we will never know who the first person was to be infected with HIV, or exactly how it spread from that initial person. Scientists investigating the possibilities often become very attached to their individual 'pet' theories and insist that theirs is the only true answer, but the spread of AIDS could quite conceivably have been induced by a combination of many different events. Whether through injections, travel, wars, colonial practices or genetic engineering.
So...don't try to be an expert on the origin of aids or for that matter on immigrants whatever their colour. I would suggest you look in the mirror & see all the cracks in your own psyche, & see how deranged it is. Then I suggest you shower & wash all the hate out of your system, because you are truly stained with an inferiority complex when it comes to judging your fellow human beings. How can you judge? When you are the one who is inhumane & lacking a distinguisied judgemental intelligence in your own skin!
"Blacks are hardworking and r goal getters, dey made good use of wot comes to dem and made their lives beta"
Aye, Africa's thriving, innit blood? It's not like it's an AIDS-infested, malaria-ravaged, corrupt sh*thole or anything, is it? Or like its people have the lowest IQs in the world? Nah, it's all about "da goal getters" - d'ya get me bro?
I'm sick of angry, loud, lazy Africans in our country and their gangster-wannabe children - f**k off home lads and your fat wives too (if you can move your fat lazy arses from the beauty salons) because you're not wanted by the majority of people in this country.
"i swerar i willl avenge u....." #100
Is that written in English? If so, that looks like a threat. Someone care to alert the relevant authorities? I wouldn't lift a finger if I were you, Olafemi, Goodluck, Njduf*imabenjani or whatever the hell your name is for you will be deported if you do - and we wouldn't want that now, would we? Back to forced genital mutiliation etc.
Padraic ur an ignorant fool a yung boi has lost his life n all u can tlk abou is immigration laws!....How can u sit der n say dat ireland shld jus close doors to imigrants australia n america didn kick u irish ou ov der country wen times wer tough bu u guys don see urselfs as foreigners jus cus ur white it don make a difference we all contain de sme organs n stuff god made us all de same jus cuz ov de color ov our skin doesn give nybody de right to kill n persecute us lyk wtf ...I aiin got nutin against white ppl i mean i go to a white man's skool i shop in white ppl shops i live in a white mans land n i don complain i've been de livin in dis country all my life i even speak ur dead language bu not once hav i eva sed nutin bad abou a white person ya'll rele don understand de pain dat we blacks go tru bein called names n sh*t lyk we work 4 wat we hav it hasn jus been givin 2 us 4 free .....And 2 de sick bastards dat killed Toy u havn made us scared r nytin u've jus made de luv between grow n united we stand aiin nutin gna change dat Black n Proud <3 .....Toy may ur soul rest in pefect peace babe.
I've always known that Irish people are bloody racists & its really sad that with d level of awareness & exposure in the world today some people like irish4life,padriac & co could still think like idiots.They are busy complaining about what they don't have becos of their laziness instead of finding ways to make their lives better. Africans, especially Nigerians are very hardworking, warm & friendly people, we accept people no matter the colour of their skin into our homes & we live in peace. these racists should learn from us & know that when we accept people for who they are....there will be peace. Toyosi...RIP.
Padraic the evidence is in what your saying.. how do you know that the blacks driving bmw arent hard workers.. how do you knw there on social and arent doin nun .. do you live there lives? .. by the way your talking .. u wish you was living there lives .. its a pity that toys death is the time you decide to talk cause your one a dem cowards that see black people and keep your head down .. and that Liam chap speak for yourself about blacks not wanted by majority of ireland .. you must know everybody den dont you. and what you talking bout salons for at least there working init. isnt that what that padraic one had a problem with them 'not' working .. but there you go there working hard to support there family and all you do is envy us cause were da best at everything we do!.
Unbelievable....the comment that anyone of us would last "about 10 mins in africa b4 we were raped shot and ate alive" has left me speachless. What planet is this guy from...have you ever even left your house? I'm Irish and I've been treated with more kindness and respect travelling in Africa than a lot of places in Ireland. Seemingly evolution has not yet reached some parts. How can these people profess to know what the people of ireland want?....sad and very disturbing.
I fear there's too much bitterness emerging both ways in this blog. I appeal to Nigerians not to fall into the trap of meeting racism with racism.
Most Irish are not racist, my family have been made welcome by our neighbours.
Those who say Ireland has an open door policy haven't a clue. Under EU law, preference must be given to EU citizens for jobs.
The vast majority of migrants who came during the boom years were from the EU - someone from Cracow has as much right to work in Dublin as someone from Cork.
Asylum seekers, at the height of the boom, made up only 4% of all migrants, less than 20% even of non-EU nationals, and their numbers have fallen dramatically in latter years.
However, if people have been through the system and granted status, then they have the right to work like anyone else, and once the authorities have granted that status, it's not for the rest of us to dispute that.
I can certainly say that Nigerians are very hard-working people who greatly value education. When I was in Lagos, I saw schools all over the place, and the people are very keen to get ahead.
I have known many Irish employers who had Nigerians working for them and who are full of praise for their work ethic, as were their Irish colleagues.
Irish people who think they want to live off the state haven't a bull's notion.
Contrary to what Northsider said, I have found the GAA is already doing trojan work to bring people together, just as it is trying to bring people from the unionist population into the Gaelic games world also.
Morning all,
Isn't is sad that 'human beings' can have such intolerance for one another. What an ignorant and pathetic society we are becoming. Irish people were the butt of racism and violence for a number of years. Have we learned nothing.
@Pádraic and all the other "proud Irish" nationalists here: if Ireland should start thinking about their immigration politics, perhaps the rest of Europe should start thinking about their rules to spend money?! Ireland participates from good educated foreign ppl, doesn’t matter if French, German, Spanish or whatever. Half of the infrastructure in this country has been paid by the EU, this means by taxes paid by FOREIGNERS. Please don't forget who gave Ireland the chance to be the Celtic Tiger and who could be needed again if the PIIGS would fall... I know the Irish as very friendly and open people and it's disgusting to see posts like this. Ireland takes more money out of the EU (per head) than Poland and other new eastern European countries. Your economy is strongly based on the service sector (SAP, IBM, DELL, BMC...) jobs that could only be done by people who speak the certain languages- if these companies would leave Ireland (because of no new ppl e.g.) what would be still here? The glorious financial sector? Estate agents? So get it that Ireland lives from the foreign ppl. who come and work here, or ask your parents how it has been before
@ Padraic#126: I’m happy you spoke up. But some further thoughts
Quote: First, RIP Toyosi: a horrible, needless death. The perpetrators should be subject to the full rigour of the law. My deepest condolences to your family and friends should you read this.
If you had said this in your first post, it is highly unlikely that people reading this sad news item would have been further shocked by your comment. A much-loved 15 year old has had his life cut short in a racist attack, his family and friends grieve. It is certainly not the time to rail against immigration, or black people enjoying middle class lifestyles. At the very least your comment was insensitive, and suggested you even approved of his murder. That’s what shocked and appalled everyone. But you have offered sincere-sounding condolences; and I commend you for that
Quote: Second, if - as someone above has suggested - black people in Ireland are driving "BMWs" and the like then, invariable, it's because that person has earned it through hard work and endeavour etc.
Again this is a back-down from your previous post, where you snidely refer to black people living in a “middle class estate”, implying that they are somehow undeserving of this status. Again, I commend you
Quote: Fifth, the point remains: it breaks my heart to see young Irish people having to emigrate in their thousands in this day and age while immigrants continue to arrive. It's time to shut the doors:
During the years of high growth, Ireland had to import skilled labor because of acute shortage in many sectors. Now that things have changed, the government has imposed severe limits on this, as many skilled immigrants trying to get work visa renewals will testify; and some have had to return to their home countries. Also, history lesson here, keep in mind that China, boasting possibly the oldest and longest-running civilization in history, is only now in the last 30 years rising from third world status. Why? Because for a long time, China shut itself off from the rest of the world, allowing no one in or out, not even for trade. It became insular, inward looking, stunted. On the other hand, the bustling kingdoms and states in Europe enthusiastically exchanged populations, waged wars, emigrated and immigrated, sent explorers and adventurers out into the world, married off daughters to foreign lands. Today, Europe and its satellite civilizations (USA, Australia) incontestably rule the world. So Padraic, shutting the doors is not the answer. Sensible economic policies and an aggressive open-door policy to skilled-labor immigration are critical to maintaining national competitiveness. US Visa Lottery, Canada’s green card scheme, UK’s HSMP (High Skilled Migrant Program) are testimony to this. And the fact that nationals of these countries emigrate to other lands is not a cogent reason for their governments to discontinue these programs
So, Padraic, one human being to another: Let go of your resentment toward Africans
Im black Irish n proud!ive lived here all my life n now i here black people being killed cause dey froma different country,so u ppl are goin to kill oda black ppl from africa n not me cause im irish du u now wat padraic dat somethin dat i call RACISM.We r all de sme we just hav different skin colour wat iz de difference.Dats sumtin dat i wanna know??????????????
we nigerians know that we are loud it I'd just a way for us to express ourselves. But we do not need you to tells us. We are not aggressive it is SOME irish people who are aggressive.
We work hard for what we have and we work to live where we live. So instead of being jealous GET OFF YOUR LAZY BACKSIDE and find a desent job. You hardly ever here of blacks killing whites and that is because we blacks have been brought up in good homes with manners. We are not parasites God made us all equally. For calling us parasites you are one. The blacks have always laid back and let the whites rule but know we will not we will stand up for what is right.
I don't even know how to start dis cos im so shocked with da amount of racism in dis country...I am BLACK AND PROUD and always will be...You white racist scum have brought me tears with the comments u have left...have youse not got compassion or even a conscience???huh..wat is rong wit being black huh???...dats wat i want 2 kno...wat did Toy do dat he deserved 2 b stabbed in da heart and laffed at while he died??...people need 2 get der acts straight..dis is a life dat was taken which nobody had a right to take..Can u not feel any sorrow for his mother cryin 4 her son in da picture r have youse turned into blocks of fu**in stone
Rip Toy youll be missed
Dee
If this were in public you would be liable for legal action in light of some of the ludicrous allegations and downright lies you have made. You love trying to see offence where none has been shown. Get over yourself and some continually seeking attention: it's pathetic. What is also interesting is the disgusting language used by our recent arrivals e.g. where they promise to "avenge" Toyosi's death or call for Irish people to be "aborted" (see #170).
i never knew toyosi, but i send my condolences to his family. r.i.p
as for the comments being posted....its very upsetting to read how some irish citizens feel and think...but at the end of the day, there's nothing you can do about that. TIS JUST VERY UNFORTUNATE!!
I fully agree with sofa -
God, are we human? or what?
What are the priority in our life?
Unfortualtely that people like Padraic are amoung - but God will sort it eventually - God bless Toy and the family
Now lets get things right here the Irish went to the likes of north&south america austraiia& the UK due to the famine and other issues,they had NOTHING but built these countries up.
I was born here pay my taxes here etc what people see is these so called aslyum seekers coming to Ireland,pretending their fleeing from persecution they go through the refugee process fail and then appeal to the courts
in order to remain here.now if you tried that in the USA/Austrailia you would be shown the door also there is 10 african countries that take part in accepting aslyum seekers.we then get tarred with the race card as it is easy to use.
I have a question for all of you if you were fleeing from your home country why would you go back there on holiday? and yes i have seen it happen in my work place,most people working just want to get on with their lives and they get annoyed when they see the abuse of our aslyum system as we have enough of our home grown spongers.
now please can we discuss this as adults i dont want to hear the usual your racist Irish peson and i dont want to hear from the likes of the dailly star readers(foreigners taking our jobs)
Judging by the content of the comments found on this page, most immigrants to Ireland need to learn English. Fast. Even the lad who claims he has a degree, his English was pathetic yet he then believes he has an automatic right to a job!! What a joke. If an Irish person is in a foreign country doing a job and is then made redundant, unless that person can then get another job then why should they be allowed to stay? That other country has every right to ask that person to leave if they try to claim the dole. Ireland is no different - to all the foreigners now claiming the dole, get out. We have enough lazy Irish scroungers to deal with first without having to provide you with money and your children with education.
Pádraic
ur clearly an uneducated ignorant child that has no clue about life ...its all about how sorry we should all feel for you because ur an idiot....
i lost a friend cause or people like you that dont have a heart ...always looking for something to blame ur retardedness on...am sure ur one of those fools that hate polish people beause the work hard...im mixed half nigerian and half irish and itz pepole like you taht make me regrate ever moving bck here..ur jst selfish and you really need to go bck to school cause ur lacking in dat education part of ur life...if yhuu get a cut weda ur black white green or what eva der obviously gonna bleed blood...so for you to tink siting over der strong out on wateva you do be doing opening ur mouth ur obviously outta ur head....
i actually feel sorry for you for ur ignorance and ur brain dat jst doesnt make sence like you havnt got a heart or common sence...
R.I.P TOYOSI...:(
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wel atleast we no how to spell cause yhuu clealy dont no how to ...well atleast we learn how to speak english yhuu jst dnt no how to pronouse the words come up here with ur ------ up accent that makes no sence like ur speaking jibrish or something talking some load of bull--- about english you dont even no how to speak ur own language trana brag about speaking english...going on about the dole like its normal..we go on the dole cause we need something to start with you go on it cause ur lazy imature and stupid and then you mone wen the dole goes down itz not like you have broken legs if we dint do the jobs we do ud still be living in the farms runing around lookin for potatoes ...let me guess you go on the dole yea you probly sit around all week waiting for money dat you already owe out for somking some dope dat melts ur brain cells dat is the ones you have left so dont sit here chatting rubish....expecting us to cry about ur problems itz called go get a job....life is tuff for everyone at some point in dere life...
toyosi is dead and we lost him ..:(
and ur wayu of backing it up is by talking abou jobz..??are yhuu serious..??
Lisa - how long have you been trying to learn English? I think you need a lot more practice
A very sorrowful day is coming to Irish people in which u ignorant racist will cry for help……. Very soon all u idiot racist will witness another 9/11 (called Irish black sorrow day).. I guess very soon
No, Lisa, are "yhuu" serious? Can you please highlight one spelling error in my comment above?
I'm not on the dole, by the way, fortunately I've worked every day of my life since I graduated almost two decades ago.
"ud still be living in the farms runing around lookin for potatoes" - and there goes the common misconception that black people do not hold racist views.
Get an "educashun", love, d'ya get me blood?
BULLSH*T daithi!!I was wondering when you would show up!!Do I still need to remind you how many Illegal Irish are residing quite happily throughout the world?And if you dont agree with the"Daily Star readers(taking our jobs)"then what exactly is your problem with ASYLUM seekers?They aint entitled to dole!I do agree about the terrible English though..you should read again your comment daithi and count the number of grammatical and spelling mistakes!(Its ASYLUM and not ASLYUM!)"Get yourself an education,will ya"
lisa you might want to have a look at your own spelling before making comments about another poster.
Actually,I would love to know what kind of work you exactly do daithi?
I heard Ireland has one of the best education systems in Europe?..where did it all go pear-shaped for you then?
Phil, what's the view like up there on your sanctimonious high horse?
daithi,If I recall correctly from a recent post from you on a previous Sunday Tribune article..quote If that makes me a racist,then thats a name I will happily take to the grave with me..unquote.
So daithi,you re holding your breath waiting for the Garda investigation to discern if this was a racially motivated attack or not?
What does it matter,you have already conveyed to us that you are a RACIST!!
divine would you care to elaborate on your comment about another 9/11
phil ever heard of a typo (i'm using a mobile which can be a pain) as for the Irish in the US& Australia if they are illegal they should be deported, i'm still waiting on a response about our asylum process i see you did not mention anything about it in your post.
only insults about my education/occupation what has that got to do with my posts please elaborate.
Wow..reading al dis makes me feel physically sick...i am a 16 year old girl nd black..i speak english fluently nd i do higher level Irish which i will b sittin for my leaving cert.you cant tel me that am bringin your kids back by not understandin the language what language exactly? Irish or english? cos in the ordinary level english classes in my school there are only Irish girls it's the same in the O.L Irish class..even in the H.L english class the teacher is continually correctin the girls when they use words like "i done it"...it's disheartnen to read al dese racist remarks u cant come here disregarding "Black" people its uncalled for...i work hard in school to make a name for myself when I am older while some of the Irish children i know go out evry night to get drunk and smoke some weed...it really saddens me..my parents work al the time.pay their mortgage bills etc with no help from the government..You cant say we "black" people go around driving big cars etc do you know that most of them work,go to school and have children and they do this al at the same time juggling al of it?..Padraic i bet u dropped out of school very young and are now gettin sourfaced when you walk and see "black" people driving..am not here to be racist...i have many irish friends which i love..we all hang out and play and don't even notice the skin colour...for my birthday i ONLY had Irish friends over at my house...I love all of them like family..all their parents welcome me to their house..they even always ask when next i'm comin over...Is this the life you want the next generation to be in? a life of hostility, hatred? my little sisters were born here and i don't think they can ever imagine not livin here....i wasn't born here but i'v been livin here since i was six, and i enjoy livin here, this country is my life i don't think i can ever live in my own country...my blood was boiling as i read these comments,and i think life is unfair..Toyosi is now 6 feet under, he did not live a full life,he could have been great in this world... do we want south london in Ireland? where people get stabbed because of their school uniform or girls get rapped bcause they're innocent? I love Ireland and i don't want that here,i work hard evryday to be successful in life and i would like to live here when i achieve that,if things don't change i WILL leave,and use my knowledge in another country,Racism is not the way forward,in fairness not all Irish people are like the ignorants above most of them are generous and kind and loving..did u not all hear about the girl in America that died after she was bullied bcause she was Irish how bout that? what are thoughts towards that Padraic? are u goin to say if her parents hadn't moved to America blah blah,cos that's bull.all in all every1 has feelings no1's a robot we all have emotions..be careful what to write...My condolences to the Toyosi's family...Love Dee x x
excellent rant Dee. All me, me, me, me and me. Boring nonsense you self-centred silly girl.
So you don't want Ireland turning into south London then? There are a lot of black people in south London, isn't that correct, in places like Deptford, Peckham, Camberwell etc? What so most of the people in those areas have in common and who is most of the violence there committe by and against? Yes, that's right: Black Africans and Afro-Carribeans. Remember Damilola Taylor?
A big disaster is coming to Ireland in which all the racist will reap from their racist heart. We will inform all foreigners when we are ready to attack like 9/11. Maybe after that all Irish people will understand.
To be a RACIST
means that you hold a belief that your race is superior to others.It always bugs me big time when I hear people say they are"Proud to be black"as much as going on about being"proud to be Irish".It suggests that you need to DEFEND yourselves against some other peoples who might be implying that you re a lesser race of human.So you see yourselves and the Blacks have more in common that you might think.I was born and raised in Ireland and left in the 80s,(eh long after the famine daithi)in the same way that I was born and raised Catholic,but I aint proud to be Irish and I sure as hell aint no Catholic!!I would love to ask these days what is there to be so proud of in being Irish?
daithi,If you would keep your eye on the ball you would see that the laws regarding asylum seekers are changing with the changing times.
First of all, Padraic! i can see that u'r a typical ignorant of a fool minded potato head. Talking bout immigration in a time like this, a 15 yr old boy was murdered, wel, ur brain is as little as fish brain. . . . Irish people u guys are bastard. if i live in tyrelstown is bcus i can afford it, and i work for it, im not on dough. just becus u guys lack ambition and spend all your money on vodka smelling like rotten eggs, u should happy that we're in trying to build your wretched country, wat can ireland do without us, look back ten years ago, we brought the development, financially, socially, and every other area that ur dumb a*s can think of. im sorry for you, your country, your government. . . Padraic u r mad, illiterate, you've should have bin lynched during the risen...
Wellsaid BRANDY, I Concur with u totally. My heart goes to the Toy's family. It is well with our souls.
phil yesterday was the first time i ever posted on this site why dont you go and confirm it with the mods.
and i have said before it is easy for some one to brand another person RACIST,are you a member of RAR i debate all the time on other sites from politics to the economy and have never been called a racist.
to padraic irish 4 life paul smith eoin c and one other waste of space in the irish society who was talking of evolution,the blacks were on their own living well and happy till the white. sorry YELLOW OR RED REALY DONT KNOW YOUR COLOR greedy men came and took them away and bring them to so call europe now you cannot live wit it. i cannot remember a black man on the board of director of IRISH NATIONAL BANK OR ANGLO IRISH BANK OR AIB OR BANK OF IRELAND OR CAN I REMEMBER A BLACK DEVELOPER IN IRELAND OR EVEN A TOP BLACK MAN IN THE IRISH DAIL. ALL THIS PEOPLE FINISHED YOUR ECONOMY AND TOOK AWAY ALL THE MONEY. A GOVT THAT CAN PAY A DIRECTOR OVER A MILLION FOR FAILING JUST SO HE CAN LEAVE THE POST BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE HE HAS STOLEN ENOUGH AND YOU SIT DOWN AND BLAME BLACKS FOR NOT HAVING ENOUGH MONEY TO BUY COKE, YOU ONLY JUST STARTED YOU ALL WILL SOON EAT FROM THE BIN AND CLEAN YOUR SHT WHEN PEOPLE WHO ARE HELPING YOU ALL LEAVE BECAUSE OF YOUR DIRTY HEARTS AND GOVT. ALL YOU IDIOTS SHOULD PUT YOUR AS TOGETHER AND GET YOUR GOVT TO TELL YOU WHERE THE MONEY I ! PAY FOR TAX WENT. wao this is unbelieveable but that is the ireland that we are in today. ireland needs a change bcos the govt. of this country have no idea wot the common man goes through.IRISH Thiefs ( i mean the ones with the pen, tie and big office ) are enjoying themselfs all over the world without any worries of the hardship they have put people in...
Toyosi should not die in vain but my message here is to everyone and the system that have put us through the pain of this lost YOU WILL ALL ANSWER THE CALL TO THE GRAVE NOW OR IN THE FUTURE AND YOU WILL HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO GOD WHY TOYOSI DIED AND HE GOT NO JUSTICE.
ATC AND PADRAIC HOW MANY IRISH PEOPLE WENT ABROAD WITH A STILL OR EDUCATION? HOW MANY KNEW EVEN TO READ AND WRITE WHEN THEY TRAVELED AND THEY WERE ACCEPTED AND THEY WORKED TEIR WAY UP? YOU GUYS ARE JUST A WASTE OF SPACE IN THE HUMAN RACE. GO GET YOUR DOSE....SO YOU CAN SLEEP FOR ETERNITY.
The reason all the black people and other non nationals are in this country is because of the 1937 Aliens Act, Mary Robinson was teaching law when she noticed that the act had not been updated.So when refugee applications were being refused and went to court the minister was acting ultra vires which means outside his powers , so the refugee application was void along with all the others, so they got to stay here untill the lazy gov updated the Act in 2004 and tried to stop the flood gates.The majority of racism in this country comes from mis understanding of the law and how the immigrants were allowed into this country.Mary Robinson became involved in the United Nations and it is because of her policy making that allowed them to arrive here, as she knew the law was invalid to throw them out . So stop blaming scamers for taking advantage of the law and taking free money and free houses, Yes they do get cars and tax paid for , that is a fact .They claim racist attacks on the streets so they get to drive instead of being mistreated in the streets .The fact is that immigrants get more social money and they even have their own application form which is diff to what the Irish have. While the gov buy out hotels to house the immigrants and Irish sleep rough,while people continue to see this unequal treatment of black and white , the racism will continue . I had no problem with racism untill I seen for myself in 2001 when I became ill and could not work and was the only white person in the social office. Tyrellstown is full of immigrants just like ongar in blanch, Ireland is full of racist and not many will admit it , I have no problem with colour but have a problem with people not born in this country getting social welfare and free houses.. please excuse spelling mistakes .
so let me guess this straight you sitting there with ur dictonary by ur side ....wait ur in school and ur trana prove a stupid pointless situation that doesnt make any sence and ur big 'come back is about ENGLISH ur like old enough to be my grandad of course you spell beta that me are you serious ..?? ur not even english so i dont no why ur stressing ur self over it....just admit it ur just board and you dont have better things to do so you came on to this to talk no sence about the dole ..since ur not on it why should it bother you excusse me my mother was irish [r.i.p] and she dint have that ignorant attitude that you putting on she lived in NIGERIA with me i came to Iriland 4 years ago with my dad and ma siblings ..i dint tink people like you with a selfish opion about the [dole] existed ..and i dout if ma mum was alive shed agree with this rubbish the ur chating so speak for urself..so you beta be carefull the was you talk about ur opinion cause ur mouth will get you in to a bad situation one day.want to show the world you went to collage when you obviously need more education about ur facts......
you dont get it its not about ENGLISH OR YOU GOING TO COLLAGE AND GRADUATING ...
my mate died in vain for no reason because someone dint want him around that is the most unhuman thing anyone could eva do....x x
Firstly, lets get some facts straight.
when the Irish emigrated throughout the years, they worked dead end jobs in foreign countries. they basically took whatever jobs they could get. I cannot remember seeing ONE black person working on a building site in Ireland - EVER! and this was despite the fact that there was a dire shortage of workers in the construction industry for yrs. what does this tell you? They are lazy, or they consider it beneath them. Funny how they can be so choosy about their occupations. Easier to stay at home riding more like and living off the irish taxpayer.
I live in Tyrrelstown where Toyosi lived. I get the bus into work each morning. I never see any black people on the bus going to work. I see plenty dropping their large families off to school driving their expensive cars while I go off to work and to pay for it all.
A lot of Toyosi's friends have made comments on this blog. Can they tell me what his parents work at to provide for his rather large family?
what a a nonsensical statement by an unexposed irish. irish citizens are all over the u.s more than any country, yet ur pple are not sent back. well its time to wake up and accept the fact that foreigners especially nigerians will soon take over your land. greater percentage of nigerians work very hard in this country, we pay our taxes as well. even the so called few that are on dow still make useful of the little we get, but while your so called son of the soil--irish, are there clubbing, drinking and squardering money everywhere. yet u a envious of our affluent. You should be ashamed of yourself for the comment you passed, what does immigration lw has to do with killing an innocent boy. stop your dringking and come out of your drunkeness and say something sensible. OLOSIIIIIIII.
the scientists state ............... Anatomically modern humans first appear in the fossil record in Africa about 195,000 years ago, and studies of molecular biology give evidence that the approximate time of divergence from the common ancestor of all modern human populations was 200,000 years ago..
we all originated from east africa....if you didnt know now you know.... plus wen you are racist towards other ppl.it means you are racist towards yourself.....in other words ,you HATE yourself.....its funny how all these racist scum will make anything out of their lives..
pls ppl wen you see someone being racially attacked dnt stand around and watch ..like has happened to me before...pls standup for your fellow human being....if anybody calls you a n-gger call the person a white N-gger!!
Racists are growing up in every part of Irish even from Police and other security agencies. Very soon both Police and other security agencies will hv less power to safe this country from big DISASTROUS We will fight and we will win all idiots Irish racist.
i am going to again ask this question again and i'm hoping someone can answer it, if a person is fleeing their country due to persecution why do they go back to that country on holiday?
also the other posts about taking over the country of Ireland and that Irish people will see another 9/11 is a bit much, and i should remind people that their posting on a news media site of a very respectable paper how many people have heard of this paper before the tragic death last week?
and i'm sure my friends in the govt that deal with threats and other biz that i'm not going to get into will read these treads with interest(offences against the state spring to mind) divine.
JUS STOP ALL DIS PLZ...I WUD HATE TO SEE ANODA ONE OF MY FELLOW BROTHER DIE LYK DIS..................................PLZ I AVE HAD ENUF FRNDS DIE NT COZ OF DEIR SKIN COLOR OR ANYTHIN BUH DIS JUS DID IT FOR ME PLLZZZ LET LOVE EACH OTHER!!!!
DERS PPL GRIEVIN RITIN SUCH TINGS WILL ONLY BRING HATE ND ANGER IN PPL'S HEARTS ND DIS WUD NAT BE PRETTY ESPECIALLY TO DESE BLACK TEENS DAH ARE GRIEVIN FOR DEIR FRNDS!!
PLZZZ LETS LOVE ND NAT HATTE
A young boy whom I have never met,has sadley lost his life as a mother I am deeply sadend by this,cuz this could have been anyone of us child,brother or family..Who cares what skin colour,death is death and it will come to all of us we just dont know how it will come.....Cuz that is the circle of life.....SO PLEASE DONT USE THIS SITE FOR YOUR POLITICAL VIEWS..THIS IS NOT THE TIME NORE THE PLACE...SHAME TO ALL OF YOU!!!...............TO THE BOYS PARENTS..I PRAY THAT THE LORD WILL COVER YOU IN HIS BLOOD AND GIVE YOU THE STRENGTH YOU NEED....R.I.P..TOYOSI....IN YOUR PLACE WHERE THERE IS NO COLOURXXXXXXXXXXX
What can I say....You've said it all....Toyosi...Rest in Peace while Padaraic and Co- Racists should rest in PIECES....
Sorry dear Racists....You can rant all you want, curse all you want, vex all u want....but GUESS WHAT???....I am not going anywhere...I will collect all the dole I want, drive the big cars I want and live in the big houses I want....and you cant do anything about it....heheheheh!!!
everyone need to stop, theres more to this world than our skincolour or wer we come from, ho we are.
the black community as contribute to the white community so as th white, it doesn matter what colour we are or where we come from, we are proud o who we are, and we are siters and brother and we do care for eachother, so when a young soul is lost in our community, it is part of us and we owe dis to him because we are black.
MAMA J.. don't mind these fools. unappreciative, selfish bunch of people. .................................... padraic im still talking to you. . . im waitn 4u
President OBAMA is black....and hez ruling the world while the Irish ones are getting drunk everyday and clubbing....fools u r (racists)...
RIP Toyosi...
OBAMA is black!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe 207# above, I'm Irish too & I think you're a "Plonker". The worst kind of representation of an Irishman I ever had the unfortunate chance to meet through a comment to a paper/magazine or whatever. As for your logic that the Irish who emigrated abroad over the years worked in dead end jobs, how many Irish abroad do you know. Every Irish person I know abroad is either in a highly paid profession, i.e., a doctor, nurse, journalist, A&R management in music, entrepreneurs, writer's & book publishing management.
As for every immigrant I know in Ireland which mainly are from Poland, Africa, many parts of same, Pakistan, China, Lithuania, India, & last but not least my favourite dentist who's from Nigeria...I can honestly say that they are all very hard worker's whether professionally or in manual & in the service's sector. Each & every one of them is contributing to the Irish economy & doing so with fire in their belly & most importantly a smile on their face. Some are doing jobs the Irish wouldn't do no matter how much they would be paid for same, because there is a lot of Irish that are for too long stuck by the seat of their pants to the chair or even lying comatosely daily to the bed.
Maybe Joe, the reason you don’t see any black person as you call them on the bus, is because they were probably in work an hour or two before you opened your eyes & secondly maybe they work at night doing those jobs again you or those still in bed wouldn’t do. And lastly, how dare you ask what these deceased boy Toyosi’s parents do to support their family. It is because of some heinous feral Irish thugs/thug that today they are mourning one of their family member’s instead of living peacefully and doing what all families do daily, get through each day. They have lost a precious child in a country that boasts a friendly welcome. They have had their dreams for Toyosi shattered in a crazy day in suburban Dublin, they have lost all sense of security & lastly while you’re on the bus thinking why you don’t see any blacks, well for one of these families at least, it’s because they are mourning their child’s passing a child that individually can never be replaced…a child that died in the most terrible horrific way, a child that’s now another innocent martyr in this God forsaken country of ours.
You are one of a minority of us I wouldn’t like to meet or see on a bus…in fact, I wouldn’t care to see you anywhere…I wouldn’t even want to smell you a million miles away, for you are not worthy of the Irish descent you claim, instead you are a “Disgrace” to the Irish sod you walk on!
i am deeply saddened by what was going on on radio tonight..and some white folks still call we black people names..which am not proud to write about on this...Pádraic is a fool for what he wrote about black people..very heartless good for noting animal..
IRISH PEOPLE SHUT THE HELL UP. YOU HAVE PRIESTS ALL OVER AFRICA THAT WERE SENT BY YOUR SO CALLED CATHOLIC CHURCH THAT WHERE KICKED OUT OF IRELAND MOLESTING SODOMISING YOUNG BOYS IN AFRICA. and you have the balls to say this and that, im so disgusted by the racists comments im reading here. DONT YOU FORGET, THAT BLACK PEOPLE AT LEAST COME TO YOUR LAND IN PEACE YOUR FOREFATHERS WENT WITH GUNS, IN THE NAME OF MISSIONARY MEN AND SODOMISED PRACTISED THEIR HOMOSEXUAL DISGUSTING ACTIVITES ALL IN THE NAME OF THE LORD ON YOUNG BOYS, i know a lot of Irish priests that went about pregnanting young girls and then killing the children and yet you're a country that does not allow this , have you got no shame , seriously white people are the most inhuman people on earth, the amount of damage they cause and yet the amount of greediness you people have is beyond me, YOUR STUPID WIVES LOVE DIAMONDS WHERE THE hell DO THEY COME FROM, YOU LOVE YOUR CARS WHERE THE hell DOES THE PETROL COME FROM, and yet you go on to say immigration bla bla bla, CAN IRELAND PRODUCE ANY OF THESE THINGS ,,,...its normally advised to think before you talk. because of this IRISH people are deemed to be the most stupid people even people who left ireland ages ago refuse to come back here and that says a lot for your so called lovely land THERE IS ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING HERE TO LOVE APART FROM IRELAND BEING A GATEWAY TO A BETTER PLACE as you can see people are leaving the country taking with them what they got here, you will be left with nothing but your pot stinking bellies and your fat women that are fatter than the pigs you raise......no wonder they sell fake drugs to y'all that are damaging most of your so called culture that has its own so called language that nobody speaks...why do you even bother lol
finally.....murder is murder it does not matter what colour the boy is, I JUST HOPE ONE OF YOUR STUPID JUNKIES WILL DO THE SAME TO A MUSLIM KID WHO COMES FROM AN EXTREMIST FAMILY , maybe thats when you will get a wake up call and stop being so racist when they start bombing this place up, I'LL BE ON A BEACH LAUGHING.......
Dee1..God Bless u for ur comments. Liam#168 & d haters of immigrants esp NIGERIANS...after all said @ this point, u're still displaying such ignorance.I'm concerned about the poor children u'll influence with this kind of mindset..pls pple, stop claiming immigrants hv taken ur jobs..bcos they simply can't...nobody can take sb else's job. U're either not fit or qualified to d job! d least education u can get has been posted freely 4 u by DECLAN#174..(thanks brother, I hope these animals in human skin get d point). My husband & I are professionals resident in Ireland, recruited DIRECTLY frm our home country.. proud to be NIGERIANS..if u had marketable skills u wld knw that there is sth called SKILLED WORKERS SCHEME....it exists in every country. FYI...bcos u see pple living in gd homes doesnt mean the govt is paying for it. Shame on u..if u were born & raised in this country & yet chose to limit urselves while pple with vision are making progress accross the globe. Many Nigerians hv built their own houses in this country..ONLY PPLE WHO ARE QUALIFIED PROFESSIONALS CAN DO THAT..I hv irish tenants in my 2nd house..nice pple..they pay their rent while we still pay d extra to make up d mortgage repayment. u're angry bcos u're not completely ignorant, u're only in denial. Its unfortunate that an innocent young boy's life has to be lost to expose the extent of racism in Ireland...its a real shame..pple experience this on a daily basis..especially @ work..if some of u get as much criticism, u'll go into depression and claim welfare benefits..but bcos we hv our priorities straight..we're making progress.U hvn't seen anything yet..there WILL be a BLACK IRISH PRESIDENT....its matter of time..& dia's nothing anyone of u low-lives can do abt it. there's more to life than skin colour. RIP KID. #181...get a life!
its disgraceful that toy got stabbed coz he was black, what happened was an insult to most people in ireland. ! he was a very nice person too be round & a great footballer . ! its not fair dah he got stabbed over somthing he was proud to be... its disgraceful that this happened in dis day & age.. people have every right too go to whatever country dey like . ! i bet if you walk into a nigerian house hold you will see how generous & respectful their culture is, most better than irish welcoming households & im only 15 & ino that colour doesnt matter, people are all the same inside we all have deh same organs & work the same way, them people that took his life already lived half of theirs & done nothing with it.. toy could of grew up & been a great footballer & made a lifetime career buh now now his innocent life has been taken away, jst because he was a different colour ? well dats stupid because they are born black & die black & white people are born pink & die purple.. Now who's coloured ? who are white people too judge no one should judge any1 else by colour or race or riligion. :( >>> R.I.P toy buddie your loved soo much we all miss you.. :( xxx
First, I condemn the murder of toyosi Shetta Bey and those responsible should face the full rigour of the law.
I see Phil, the self-appointed champion of the downtrodden masses is spouting his usual claptrap. If I were a member of an ethnic minority, the last person I would want defending me is this pretentious twit.
He should remember that a fool can pass for a wise man if he keeps his mouth shut.
its very sad that an innocent life has been cut short.... may his sould rest in peace....
Im also saddened wit sum comments from people like Padraic...blaming every problem on immigrants is not going to solve any problem but rather shows ur illitracy and lack of education...the foreigners that have good life and good house have them not because they are foreigners BUT BECAUSE THEY WORKED FOR IT. these are people that spent several years at school and they are here working and contributing to the economy..
When u go to hospital for example, you see a large number of foreign doctors...these is because there is shortage of doctors being produce in Ireland and as a result, THE IRISH GOVERNMENT ARE PROMOTING AND ATTRACTING THESE FOREIGN DOCTORS TO IRELAND.....
so its unfair to blame the unemployment on the foreigners...rather try and help yourself by geting educated and securing a good job...
Daithi,I really dont know what you re goin on about holidays!?!Maybe you need one?So,you have friends in the Gov?..Ah,ok.
Anyhow,you seem to sound intimidated by the silly threats,I would'nt worry too much.people are obviously very angry.
Briain,you just sound the same as you usually do!
under our skin we all bleed red
open your eyes and see the colours, open your mind and they dissapear
What a load of pants. I seen something the other night in west dublin. young NIGERIAN school girls picking on a young irish school girl. the irish mother went over to have a word with the young NIGERIANs. they told there mother. with that the NIGERIAN mother banged down the door of the irish woman. "its because I am black" was the first word said" thats all NIGERIANs say... get out of jail card every time... "is it because I am white".....
What happened with Toy was wrong. but I think it was the wrong place wrong time for the poor lad. it doesnt matter if your black, white, yellow, red or green...you cant stop the killing.. it wont be the last blood on the streets of Dublin Ireland. stop this "racism card" remeber this "No Blacks No Dogs No Irish" - that was a sign used all over the world.... we need to get on with our lives now...
The bottom line in Ireland is the system ie Government is to blame for the attitude of the raciest Irish. There are Irish homeless everywhere on our streets which are disowned by the state and I am not talking about the professional beggars and in contrast there are different color nationalities who come to Ireland well aware of our generous social welfare system, houses are given along with other extended benefits and the more children the better the benefits, any trip to the dole office will prove this. If people pay into the tax system in Ireland well they have every right to benefits but many foreign people do not pay a cent in and that is the problem, none the less many of the Irish raciest have neither payed a cent into the tax system so I cant understand why they begrudge other for exploiting tax payers either!
To joe #208, u're so ignorant about ur so called fact, what makes you think that Africans don't work dead end jobs? lots of Nigerians are working as care workers, taking care of Irish old, sick, imbecile and vulnerable. I am a nigerian working as a youth worker in Ballymun and i get enough insults yet i still do my job well enough to take care of my family without the support of the irish govt. My husband is a software engineer and i have a brother who worked in the contruction company but not as a labourer like you but as a professional Quantity Survey if you get my drift. How will you notice when all u're expecting is blacks carrying bricks. Get your facts right, lots of Niegerians are profesional working day and night and still finding time to go to college.
To Phil and Padraic... You spoil the image of hard working irish people like me and you choose a forum such as these to show ur deranged mind, get into the central mental hospital in Milltown thats where ya all belong. Please to the family of TOY, accept our condolences, on behalf of the Irish People.
How come any other different race group in Ireland i.e Muslums, Asian, Polish etc etc dont have any problems in Ireland?? NIGERIANS on the other hand have major issues. others fit in with no problems. you are African. stop going on, walking around like you are from South Central Los Angeles.
@208, Joe...you have to apologise to the family, its not anyones fault that youre taking the bus to work, what do you do with you salary...spending it in the pub??? go get a car and drive to work and stop being jealous of those who get their priorities right.
TO ALL THE IGNORANTS AND RASCIST OUT THERE,SHAME ON YOU A BILLION TIMES! FOR GOD'S SAKE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A SOUL HERE, A CHILD,A SON,A TALENTED TEENAGER FOR THAT MATTER WHOSE LIFE AND DREAMS HAD BEEN SNUFFED OUT... THINK NOW AND IMAGINE HOW YOU WILL FEEL IF YOU ARE TOYOSI'S PARENTS. IMAGINE THE TRAGIC LOSS OF YOUR BELOVED SON AT HIS PRIME! PLEASE,LET'S BE HUMANE AND REASONABLE. I JUST HOPE THAT JUSTICE IS DONE SO THAT OTHER IGNORANTS LIKE THOSE HERE WILL LEARN A BIG LESSON.
THIS HATRED,JEALOUSY AND NARROW MINDEDNESS OF SOME PEOPLE WILL NEVER GET US ANYWHERE IN THIS NATION AND THE WORLD AT LARGE. THE SOONER WE ALL EMBRACE ONE ANOTHER,THE BETTER FOR US ALL. IF IRISH PEOPLE CAN LIVE IN OTHER COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD,I BELIEVE OTHER NATIONALITIES SHOULD BE FREE TO DO SAME HERE. THE IRISH ARE NO SAINTS AND NEITHER THEY ARE DEVILS IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY RESIDES. SO SOME OF THESE MYOPIC,EGOCENTRIC AND IGNORANTS BIGOTS SHOULD STOP IMAGINING THAT ALL IMMIGRANTS PARTICULARLY NIGERIANS AND AFRICANS ARE BAD AND THAT THE IRISH ARE SAINTS. THEY SHOULD GET SOME EDUCATION AND STOP EMBARRASSING GOOD IRISH PEOPLE OUT THERE.
I PRAY THAT GOD IN HIS INFINITE MERCIES WILL GIVE TOYOSI'S FAMILY THE FORTITUDE TO BEAR THE PASSING ON OF THEIR BELOVED SON.
This word 'racist' is being slung around too freely.Just let the judicial system sort it out. I think a lot of people will be surprised at the outcome. Phil, I can't believe you are exchanging views with these posters.I also left in the eighties with three small kids and am counting my blessings. I am very happy in Australia and
am also sad at my homeland self-destructing. Take a deep breath and step back, just leave it to the fools.
''Panther'': you can go and hang. You come to my country and then accuse me of being ''mad, illiterate'' and state that I ''should have bin [sic] lynched during the risen [sic]..''
I really do not understand why the moderators hve allowed so many death threats to be ph lishes on this site e.g. the person that asked Irish people to ''rest in pieces'' or the other chaming individual who declared he would avenge Toyosi's death or the gentleman who warned that Ireland was imminentlu facing a ''9/11''. Animals.
To all the harbingers of hate how forgetful ye are,does the phrase "no blacks,no dogs,no Irish" ring any bells?
RIP to the young man
At last someone out there in Blogger-land with a sane head on their shoulders.So sweet to hear some words of wisdom FARRELL!SIGNING OFF NOW!
Racism will never stop all over the world. All i have to say is BLACK is the the best skin color. The best answer to give to someone who is calling you "n****r" is silence (dont say anything) because this person only an idiot,ignorant and has lost his mind. We black peolpe came to Ireland to STAY and we are not going ANYWHERE.
Wow, what a responsive and emotive thread .These situations will happen again
and again because Ireland has no immigration policy. It's a free for all, and I do mean "free."
There are people from all over the world flocking here for hand outs
i read alots of comment , i want to pray for pady , irish 4 life ... i love ireland and ilove irish peaple , and i dont belive that ireland 4 irish becouse i dont belive tha america for american , i hope i make it clear for the racist peaple and god wil forgive them and show them the light , becous paddy soon wil be one day in another countries and idont want him to fill same about what happend to the young boys,or may be pady wil go to space to live with alien
As a human, I was brought to tears while reading the comments.
Our good friend's life has been cut short. He is dead and gone forever! May his gentle soul rest in peace.
We will always remember you.
However, the attack doesn't make white people racists. I'm Nigerian in the UK and have loads of white friends who can't harm a fly. I will suggest that we shouldn't sensationalize this issue. Our friend was not killed by the Irish people. The condemnation of this act is even overwhelming in the country.
For those using this unfortunate incident to call for a ban on immigration, get a life. Get an education and get yourself a job. Nobody is taking your job from you. You are probably not qualified to get a job.
"my country" "our country" thats all im hearing the only thing that makes it our country is our parents had sex here and gave birth to us.........so why are we more entitled ? every one is equal just ask the irish in america or since the "recession hit ask the irish in australia no one is sending them home or saying get out of our country
You racists irish say My country, My country. Did your great great parents ever build a country. The entire world belong to the almighty GOD. So his children can go and live wherever they want. You people have no power so shut up.
Padraic is a fake Irish, hes only using this medium to spark off a war between the irish and the blacks,dont be fooled guys, they might be terrorists trying to pulmegrate hate, death,Im Irish and my grandad happened to be a teacher in Nigeria in the 70s, he told us stories of how nice they were to him and treated him like a little god...pls people do not be swayed by this tweps-Padraic and co, they do not speak for the Irish, and in the interest of peace, there is nothing we can do about other races coming to Ireland but to try and coexist, work hard like im doing and there s nothing to worry about.
ok put it dis way wat if it was a BLACK man dat killed a WHITE young irish boy
because he didnt like him bcoz he was white!!....HOW WOULD U FEEL DEN PADRIAC,PADRUK,PADRUNKY,,,WA EVA YUR FOOLISH NAME IS!!..
wa if it was YOUR SON or NEPHEW or evn BROTHER,DAUGHTER ,WIFE was killed for being white HOW WULD U FEEL DEN!!!???
((((nd PLZZ DO ANSWER ME!))))
in this day and age to read such digusting talk im brought to tears a childs life was takin for no reason what is colour is does not define a human bein . ive always been proud to be irish but to no i share a country wit such ignorant narrow minded hateful people has mad me bitter how dare u scum comment on this page . people like u are the ones who deserve to suffer . RIP TOY
#234 Cathrine. I have my priorities right, i have a car, i choose to get the bus as it is greener and cheaper and quicker when i take getting parking into account.
If i go up to a black person tomorrow and say hello and stab him in the heart, will the gardai and the dpp charge me with manslaughter or murder?
It has not been reported in detail what the circumstances leading to Toyosi's death were... I don't agree with the killing, it was a vile act.
I don't get why people from Nigeria come here fleeing persecution (they also go back to Nigeria for weeks holidays at a time) and then tell us what a wonderful country Nigeria is and then say what a racist dump Ireland is.
ok. ok ENOUGH of this nonsense.
First off, RIP Toyosi; you didnt deserve to die the way you did; nobody does. My sincere condolences to Toyosi's family. I hope you get through this time of grief and come out stronger.
I am NOT even gonna stoop so low as to acknowledge the racist comments on here.
Thanks to all the Irish people who have stood up against such comments and opinions. There will always be the bad eggs. I am here all of my adult life and I have become so in love with this beautiful country that has become my home. The stunning scenery, crazy weather but most of all, the heart of the Irish has won me over. Maybe I am one of the few who will never have anything bad to say about Ireland or her beautiful people.
It is an utter and absolute shame that the media have chosen to portray this as a racist attack. I doubt it would have mattered so much if the boy had been black, white or brown that night. I have been in this country a while and i've had my fair share of maltreatment. However, not all maltreatment is racist. Not all attack is racist. Those guys and those commenting above are bullies and Ireland has more bullies than racist. Unfortunately bullies come in all shapes and colours. Whether in the work place or at school, or in the neighbourhood... A Bully is a person who:
has never learnt to accept responsibility for their behaviour;
wants to enjoy the benefits of living in the adult world, but who is unable and unwilling to accept the responsibilities that are a prerequisite for being part of the adult world;
abdicates and denies responsibility for their behaviour and its consequences (abdication and denial are common features of bullying);
does not want to know of any other way of behaving;
is unwilling to recognise unable and unwilling to recognise the effect of their behaviour on others; that there could be better ways of behaving.
Bullies project their inadequacy on to others
to avoid facing up to their inadequacy and doing something about it;
to avoid accepting responsibility for their behaviour and the effect it has on others;
to reduce their fear of being seen for what they are, namely weak, inadequate and often incompetent individuals.
tbc...
The bulk of my post goes out to the ‘BLACK’ folk attacking racism with racism. It is quite unfortunate that a couple of Irish people commit a crime, say degrading things and suddenly we are judging ALL white/Irish people as racist. Is that in itself not what racism is; Discrimination or prejudice based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin?
So before you come up here posting rubbish as comments, look right in the mirror and say after me ‘I am racist’.
Now that that’s out in the open, reconsider your ‘black’ heritage. I wish I knew any one of ye guys so I can SLAP THE BLACK BACK INTO YOU. Being black is about respect, dignity, love, laughter, honour, pride. You claim being black yet you forget your roots. 15year olds and 16yr olds coming up ere using words like c**T, F**k etc. How black is that?? I tell you, if you used those words in Africa. You’d get the whooping of your life. What pains me is that black kids come here and take up everything nasty in the western society and unfortunately you don’t let the good bits get into you as much...have you travelled the beautiful plains of this country? Have you seen the heart of most Irish, the peace and security that permeates every day life and is the norm rather than the exception? You copy our idea of westernisation from media extremes and middle class communities yet you wanna be achievers? Imagine Obama as you are sagging jeans, studs in ears and filthy talking. Or imagine Michelle’s boobs out on facebook.
You aint black! you have lost your identity. From your language, one can guess the kinda black person you are. I would bet you dress nasty, go to night parties n clubs and do the dirty dances. You’re only a teen but you disrespect your parents, elders , teachers etc. You might have tried smoking at least once and if you aint drinking yet, you’ll be by the time (IF) you finish college and you probably won’t be a virgin by the time you get married. I bet you don’t even know jack about your own country’s history, culture and geography. Hello proud Nigerian, can you name the 36 states and their capitals? And when last did you visit another African country other than your own? Black indeed! Before you point fingers at the Irish and tell them how ignorant they are and how messed up their country is, look back at yours and see the same things repeat themselves in different measures. Irish people are not your problem, white folk are not your beef, and racists won’t get to you if you don’t let them. Your problem is you!
tbc...
Now look back in that mirror and say after me I am NOT black, i am only a watered down, westernised, version of a black man/woman and if I continue this way I’ll be nothing but a disgrace to my own race. I need to learn about my own culture, learn to love, show respect and hold my head up high like a black man/woman. I will fight like my forefathers fought but never for the wrong causes. I will fight for the dignity of Africa. I will live to be an example of African pride. I am in this country to learn. I will observe, get the good bits and ditch the bad. I will be proud of my heritage and culture not just brag about my colour. I will love all races. I didn’t travel over 5000km to this country just to hang about my own race and colour and go back with narrowed mind. I will learn to integrate fully with Irish folk and some of the 180 or so other nationals living here; learn from them and broaden my mind and thinking. I will teach them a bit of what it means to be black and proud. And whatever happens I will represent my nation and impact those around me positively; only positively! Then shall I be truly BLACK & PROUD.
I could go on forever but im gonna stop now.
finally, older black folk, show good example to these young ones.
do not repay evil with evil. only LOVE CONQUERS ALL!
peace n lovex
I am disgusted by a lot of the comments on here bt am not surprised. I have read similar on a site I came across last night Stormfront Ireland and I think it's a disgrace that a website and group is allowed to exist. I have also witnessed disgusting postings and harassment of people on the Justice for Toyosi group on facebook. The mentality of some people I just can't comprehend. My husband is black and does work and doesn't claim the dole at one stage he was even working 2 jobs as the job he does doesn't pay enough. I'm sick of people constantly insisting that racism is not a probelm in Ireland. I have recently had to move my 3 children from the school they were in as a result of racial bullying and beatings and the principle doing nothing about it as he was afraid of the parents of the kids doing it. He told me my daughter needed to toughen up and that she should get used to being called racist names because it would happen wherever she went. So I had no choice but to remove all 3 children from the school as obviously they couldn't be responsible for what happened to her in school at one stage I even had to take her from school after I got a call she had been kicked between the legs and was barely able to walk, I had to take her to a doctor to get checked. I think what is happening here needs to be stopped before it gets out of hand and groups such as stormfront should be nipped.
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It is very interesting that a "sizable African community" lives in this particular "middle-class housing estate" while hundreds of thousands of Irish people once again prepare to emigrate in order to find employment.
We immediately need to reconsider our policy and tolerance of immigration: shut the doors before we see the rise of Parisian banlieues and Peckham ghettoes in our country.