The country's most respected civil servant, TK Whitaker, has admitted that an almost bankrupt Ireland was in danger of losing its independence in the late 1950s.
In a new documentary, he reveals that former Northern Ireland prime minister Terence O'Neill expressed his wish to have Donegal added to the six counties.
Whitaker, voted the greatest living Irish person in 2002, is seen as one of the most influential figures in 20th-century Ireland. In an interview with TG4, the architect of Ireland's modern economy says he warned the government in the late 1950s that the almost-bankrupt country would have to go back to Britain if urgent action was not taken to get out of debt.
He said: "The country was in danger of losing its independence. I felt an obligation to try and put things right.
"I was bold enough to write a note to the then [finance] minister [Seán Lemass] of the day saying if we continued the way we were it wouldn't be long before we'd have to ask England to take us back."
The 93-year-old says baffled IMF officials, who had arrived in the country to speak with Taoiseach Eamon de Valera in the late 1950s about the country's finances, were treated to a version of his famous 1943 speech about his ideal Ireland
"He gave them an account very much like that of the comely maidens and so on. When he came out, the American leader of the IMF delegation said: 'Your prime minister is a strange man'. I think de Valera understood at the end that the speech he gave was only a dream."
In the documentary, Whitaker, who was finance secretary during the 1950s and 1960s, also reveals that French president Charles De Gaulle didn't want Ireland to join the EEC because of the country's close ties with Britain.
The Down-born civil servant, who was a close adviser to both Seán Lemass and Jack Lynch during their time in government, says he was responsible for setting up the first state talks between the Republic and Northern Ireland after partition as he had developed a friendship with Terence O'Neill.
He says the issue of Donegal was humorously discussed between taoiseach Seán Lemass and O'Neill at their ground-breaking lunch meeting in 1967.
"Seán Lemass had a very good innings there. Terence O'Neill told him he really regretted that the six counties were only six counties and the county he liked best of all, Donegal, was outside their scope.
"'Oh' said Lemass, 'You can have Donegal if you take [Neil] Blaney with it'," Whitaker says.
He also reveals that a fired-up Ian Paisley and his supporters threw snowballs at the state car he was travelling in with the then taoiseach Jack Lynch for a similar meeting at Stormont in the late 1960s.
"They were standing in the snow armed with snowballs which they threw at our car. They were not very good shots.
"But when we were getting out at the prime minister's residence you could hear Ian Paisley bellowing 'No pope here, no pope here' and Jack Lynch turned to me and said in his nice soft Cork accent 'Which of us does he think is the Pope?'"
The man who brought Ireland out of its economic shell in the second half of the 20th century says his greatest ambition now is to live to be 100.
T K Whitaker – Seirbhíseach an Stáit will be shown on TG4 on Monday 27 December at 8.15pm
I agree with Jack's comment. Then as now, I cannot understand how supposed intelligent people voted for the Dev, outfit. He was one of the key players in policy making, yet thousands had to emigrate or starve, the families left behind voted for this outfit He never referred to this exodus from Ireland. Not for a minute was it considered or made known that this was a good solution for his economic policy. Most of the young at 15, children left their families, to travel steerage to the USA, in sordid conditions on ships, or the cattle boats to the UK to feed themselves & send their money back to feed their families. Nothing in McQuaid's papers in recognition of this group of Irish emigrants. There are plenty of monuments to the famine, but no mention of the famine from 1922-70. I have great respect for the men of 1916, I have respect for our struggle for Independence, but I have no respect for the drafters of our Constitution, & this Mc Quaid merchant should never have been allowed to contribute. This is the instrument that has kept Ireland in the dark ages. In Europe, & where the Vatican has its seat Rome, no such church interference was allowed. Lemass & all that group including FG were responsible for this, opportunity was there to change all that. In this civil servant's contribution no mention of emigration.
Thankfully we did not have to rejoin the British commonwealth.
We were "saved" by Brussels.
Fred.. thankfully, but we still need the commonwealth to take our unemployed, Canada, Australia, New Zealand & UK, mainly accommodating the Irish. I dont think Brussels, France & Germany would tolerate an influx of 25-50.000, so in the end the government are grateful for small mercies, & of course the UK bailing out Irish business to the tune of 7billion sterling.
Agree with all the comments here but would point out that the Vatican tries to influence policy everywhere it has an ambassador (papal nuncio). Here in Italy it interferes massively, always has, from the time it supported Mussolini and got the Lateran Pact in return, which gives it enormous privileges (e.g. only Catholicism taught in schools, teachers chosen by Bishops but paid by state). They supported Berlusconi and in return he abolished property taxes for them (they own half of Rome, hotels, universities, sports facilities ecc and pay no taxes). To put in perspective, I pay over E1000 property tax a year property tax on an average size house. One of the main parties UDC is a Vatican puppet. At least in Ireland the people have woken up to the hypocracy of the Church, here it's getting worse because of Berlusconi's TV monopoly.
Sharp as a knife, Jack. Waited a long time for put it so succinctly.
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The then IMF comment about De-Valera being a "strange" man, was spot on. He is now widely thought to have been a machiavellian inveterate liar and his presummed illegitimacy is thought by many so have preyed on his mind that he turned to an extreme catholiscism as a sorry source of comfort. In so doing, he condemned us all to live in a twisted, statelet, under a sectarian constitution, written largely by Archbishop McQuaide, whom Dr. Noel Browne was later allegedly to accuse of being a violent paedofile.
The current crop of "half-qualified" IMF stooges will not come to any such original conclusions in our case. Ashoka Mody, the number two, for instance, was an electrical engineer before he "dodged" into economics through "community Development". He was then "recruited", possibly through the interesting system whereby many indian and pakistani public servants "buy" their way into the UN and IMF& World Bank jobs through promising to pay 10 to 15% of their salaries, for life, to middle/men and other fixers. He was shot and nearly killed in 2009 by a fellow IMF worker, an African, who he caused to lose his job. ( It is perhaps interesting here that Indians are often accused of racism against black africans, within the strange system that is the UN and Bretton Woods organisations, the IMF and WB).
We cannot expect much by way of original thought or ethical assessment of our own twisted politics and institutions from such stooges, anxious to cover their own backs, by following orders from the biggest Bond holders, among others.